thanks for the reply guys im a hardcore combat player but im just stating my opinion that's all and the mere fact vanguard dps is good and left us sents in the dust should be a wake up call yes it takes skill to play sentinel well but it should be worth it. Thing is we bash each other here instead of supporting each other while combat may be 'easy' as many say only a true master can get top dps from it and that is the truth you see majority of sents running combat but do they understand what is required to make it stand out from a 3 second buff no and that is what im getting at 2.10 may have been rgn based but at least we had more abilities for a good rotation ......