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What can they possibly come up with?
Either they...
1. put in neutral gear that is similar in power level but with different stats than the light/dark stuff, in which case you get situations like tanks need to go light while DPS needs to stay neutral. That's no better than the current state of things.
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2. you have identical gear available for neutral (ie everyone), which effectively makes duplicates of many items and inflates the costs of the neutral versions since they will be in demand by everyone. Slightly better, but neutrals end up having to pay more for identical stats.
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3. you have identical gear available for neutral (and is restricted to neutral), which means that forced light and forced dark and forced neutral are valid choices, but the guy who plays naturally and ends up level 1.5 dark at level 50 when the best relics needs dark V or completely neutral, which is no better than the current state of things.
You can easily grind alignment in the game, especially end game. Just blitz BT/Esseles over and over solo, or run a bleepton of diplomacy missions, so fixing your alignment isn't a huge issue(tho annoying during the leveling portion of the game, and gamebreaking for people who came because of the painless grind here).
To me its an issue of being able to play my character the way I see her, and still compete with those who went cookie cutter.
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Thats depressing. Are they at least competitive when it comes to PvP?
Probably depends on your playstyle, the ones I glanced at seemed to provide the same bonus when used as the non-pvp ones give when combining the use and the base, so your stat spikes will be the same, but you will have higher baseline endurance(since your gonna get one that gives end as its base stat, simply for pvp).
Might wanna go over to the pvp forums for a more accurate assessment tho, my pvp experience come from eve online, not a wow style mmo, so I am not doing any serious analysis of endgame gear anytime soon.
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PvP Relics are available aren't they?
They aren't as good as non-pvp relics, since they have no stats, only an on-use ability.
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What do LS DS options actually represent? It sometimes isn't clear at all:
3 examples:
1. JK spoiler:
Jedi Knights can flirt with the new Twi'lek matriarch on Tython for DS points. In this case, DS approximates to going against the Jedi Code. Flirting and consensual romantic activity is not against any generally accepted moral code.
2. In any number of situations where killing a prisoner instead of letting him/her go, DS points are awarded because it corresponds to generally accepted morality in general, independent of its affiliations with the Jedi or Sith. (i.e. "don't kill people, doing so is bad")
3. Esseles spoiler:
Letting the engineers die is DS, roughly approximating to generally accepted morality. In terms of the Jedi code, however, it can ostensibly be LS, because Jedi are asked to act calmly, and with reason. Letting emotions get in the way ("we must save them naoughw!") is DS according to how LSDS works in example 1.
It represents whatever the person writing the story arbitrarily this is light/dark at the time of writing.
My ideal interpretation is that lightside/darkside are personal thing, and have to do with personal morality(which is pretty standardized when everyone is raised from a very young age inside a rigid religious structure, ie the Jedi Temple), but thats not something that can be worked into a game like this due to mechanics.
Tho, they could tailor it if everyone took an exhaustive psychological profile during account creation, but then, who would do that
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I'm pretty sure the devs have stated that they plan on adding grey gear in the future.
I've heard that, but no one seems to be able to provide a link to it.
You also have to ask, when?
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1- They will almost certainly make some Neutral Vendors.
2- Even then, the difference is what, 6% of one or two stats? Not exactly show-stopping.
You don't pvp much do you.
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remember, the clones were altered to suppress the individualism that mandos prize. mandos themselves hated the clones, and felt jango had betrayed them by allowing himself to be cloned.
Based on KoToR, if clan Ordo rejects the Mandalore, Then they simply do not acknowledge he is mandalore. Those who follow him will try to kill them, but hey, thats not a bad thing to a mandalorian
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Well the simple lore answer is that its a fallacy which is why the Revanites get purged. i.e. if there is such great power why the hell are you hiding in a jungle.
You can create as many relics as you have set of shards. So at current count, you should be able to make 3 or 4, not sure if the 3rd green shard is in game or not. As to what the relics do...they changed them since beta so I'm not sure if they will beat the high end aligned relics.
v0v Its still presented as a viable option by Bioware, so my point there stands
And the only relics I've looked into are the pvp relics, and I understand they are terrible at 50, you should stick to the ones from level 40
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You know there is the argument that you are playing Star Wars and if you are trying to play a neutral character in Star Wars you are doing it wrong. Star Wars is about the epic conflict between good and evil. You have to pick a side, or you get blown up like alderaan. Of course lightsabers have alignment restrictions. Of course a dark 5 sith warrior can't use blue color crystals.
As far as relics, the best relics in game are the datacron shard relics which have no alignment restriction on them.
No one seems to be complaining about the restricted gear, exactly. The problem is that neutrality is a goal for some(reinforced by the sith revanite quest chain that tells us that great power can come from walking both light and dark paths, like Revan), and for others, their natural choices leave them stuck in the neutral zone.
As far as relics... You get how many datacron matrix relics? Only 1 iirc. And how many slots for relics? OH!! 2?!?! So by going neutral I gimp myself. EVERYONE will have the Datacron relic, as well as a high end aligned relic. So where is the great power Bioware promised me for following in Revans footsteps and going grey sith?
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Thanks a ton for helping me out on the subject guys, its really appreciated. I think I finally understand how Clan's such as Ordo would be seen. Cheers
Just FYI, Clan Ordo has provided a few Mandalores over there years.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Ordo
So if they are siding with the republic, it means they seriously question whether the current Mandalore is legit, and if they do, others are likely to question him as well.
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I have a bad feeling my Consular is going to be walking the dark path...these choices are too morally ambiguous for me. D:
Most of them aren't this ambiguous, there are just a few
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You are miss informed.
In KOTOR there was Master Vandar too. And now in SWTOR there is another jedi. Yoda was simply the last of his kind.
If you played the KOTORs you would understand much more about SWTOR. Who Revan realy is, and that gosht women near him ( it was Metra Surik the jedi exile you played in KOTOR 2)
No, he wasn't. Its just that his kind are very reclusive(Lucas has confirmed they are around, but refuses to give any details. They aren't allowed to be named in any way other than 'Yoda's Race'). There was another of his race on the Jedi Council when Yoda joined(Yaddle) and if you pay attention, you will see more of them in a few shots in the PT(one was pink, iirc)
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"The End Justifies the Means" - a very Machiavellian approach to things, and Machiavelli would be oh-so-Dark Side.
Also, about sacrifice being needed, that refers to the sacrifice of self, not the sacrifice of others. Choosing to sacrifice others for a "greater good" is back to Machiavelli. The means is just as important as the ends.
And Mace Windu used the dark side, even tho he was considered the most light sided jedi ever. Darth Caedus(Jacen Solo) turned to the darkside so he would have the power to pull the galaxy through to a lighter place, which would be a form of self sacrifice, yet he died a Darth.
Some people do believe that the ends justifies the means in a good way, and you have to remember that morality is subjective, and very rarely black and white. That particular philosophy is one of the most grey you can find.
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Is anyone still amazed that there are 50,000 posts about class imbalance, 50's in WZ's, Unsubbing, and basically everything that has been covered in this post even since the post was made?
Dear bioware,
Please send the message that while you appreciate the input, people need to consolidate. Put their posts that have the same topics (sometimes even the same title) into one spam garbage thread so that those of us who would like to constructively talk about pvp and the systems that are already in place have an easier time doing so...
Screw it... Make me an admin and I'll see to it personally...
Thanks!
E.P.
They be trying, I've had a couple of threads I posted in closed with a comment that there is another thread about it, and a link to the thread. Takes time, tho, and there are more artards posting than mods locking.
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i could understand yoda but in terms of the sith i really dont think so, not to mention it's referenced that the old republic era sith were nothing compared to the original sith. Id think that exar kun/ajunta pall/naga sadow>palpatine
Then again this is all opnion.
Once again, according to cannon, Palpatine was the most powerful Sith ever. His talents, however, were of the subtle variety. He specialized in effecting the mind. Think of Bastille's Battle Meditation in KoToR (2? I get them confused) but in reverse, sowing fear and confusion. Remember what Yoda said about something clouding the force with the Dark Side so they couldn't see what was happening? That was Palpatine's work, solo.
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Sorry, outgrew the storyteller system back in the 90s, when I realized that freeform roleplay was just godmodding, and if I want to do that I'll just do true freeform roleplay.
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Reading comprehension my friend...
If you have 4 gigs of ram you benefit from swapping to 64 bit os, you will benefit nothing from 16 gigs of ram under 32 bit os. Because of physical adressing, as I said. It does not help to link a hastily googled explanation when you do not understand what it explains.
/sigh, the portion I quoted clearly explains. Since the vidram is reallocated at the beginning of your address space, it eats ram. The increased address space in 64 bit OSes doesn't help, because its not overwriting addresses at the end.
And this is all happening in the BIOS. I actually watch my BIOS recount my RAM differently when I do a full length POST, the the tune of 1gig(the ram being taken over by my vid card). I have dealt with this on countless customer computers over the years, and seen vid card drivers try and handle it in various wonky ways to keep you from seeing it happen(my favorite was the one that reported normal RAM and Vidram combined to windows, with an nvidia card).
I have spent hours arguing with actual developers about this before it was proved to me, because as you believe, it is counter-intuitive.
To explain a little of the basic engineering, all system reserved addresses are mapped to the beginning of your memory space to make sure the space actually exists. That memory space starts at 0, is first allocated to RAM(because thats what it is) and then RE-allocated to the system resources that need it. This means every piece of hardware you have in your system eat a bit of ram, but you would never notice it if it weren't for vidcards and their large amounts of special ram.
I hope you can understand this, and that I speak from experience, and education.
And if you can't take my word for it, try using a 2 gig card in a 1 gig computer with a 64 bit OS
edit: and I am using win7 64bit ultimate.
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That was a very specific design choice that the devs have previously explained.
Linky plox. I wanna read these reasons.
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Never heard of this before, but as a temp fix your crafting droid is also a healer. You just have to get him gear(hes nekkid)
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You can hear your footsteps though. That in itself adds tremendously to the ambience, so much that they didn't bother with much of anything else. Not needed. Footsteps will suffice when you have spent $275m of your budget on voice actors.
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lol
Your gfx does not "eat" ram.
32 bit win can only allocate ~4 gigs of ram total, and of this your gfx needs as much space allocated as it has onboard. Hence if you run 4gig+ of ram on your 32 bit win OS, it will only be able to utilize 4gig - gfx onboard amount. It does not help to have 8 - 16 or 32 gigs under 32 bit win.
Under 64 bit win os you can utilize a lot more, and under this circumstance your gfx does not "eat" allocated space from your ram. I.E you will be able to utilize all your 4 gigs of ram. (You still won't need more than 4 gigs of ram for most situations unless you do heavy rendering.)
/nerd
You are incorrect, sir. Your vid card DOES eat that ram, because the memory space has to be re-allocated to the vid card.
Also, please tell me that people still using a 32 bit OS in this day and age are rare, and not trying to play video games >.>
Edit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978610
For example, if you have a video card that has 256 MB of on-board memory, that memory must be mapped within the first 4 GB of address space. If 4 GB of system memory is already installed, part of that address space must be reserved by the graphics memory mapping. Graphics memory mapping overwrites a part of the system memory. These conditions reduce the total amount of system memory that is available to the operating system. -
They never beta tested it with large numbers I think.
The weekend invites would not have made.
They probably did some testing though.
In the last 2 weekend betas Ilum was turned off on normal servers, and they never managed to make the high level server work, so as I understand there was no large scale testing of Ilum.
Admittedly, I was Squad 11-11-11, so I may have missed some prior mass testing of Ilum that no one ever mentioned on the forums.
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That's not quite constructive.
From what I gather, people with GTX580s and people with GTX560s or similar mid-high end cards get the same FPS on the fleet, that is around the 20s. Which leads me to believe its more of a graphical glitch rather than a server issue. They can fix the graphics issue and should be fine.
they can have separate player caps for different planets. Ilum's can be lower because its pure pvp and other planets can be higher because not a 100% of the population on every planet will be out for pvp.
Sure it is. The fact that the game in its current state is having issues with alot of people at once is a very valid reason to keep it for now.
Bioware knows about these issues, and is working on them now(hopefully fixes will deploy in the next patch or 2, and the very next patch, once the issues are confirmed to be resolved, will turn off sharding).
Please don't dismiss opinions that differ as nonconstructive. If he had said 'it won't happen cause the game sucks too bad' that would be nonconstructive.
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Noone's raging here, this is actually one good conversation going on in this topic, only if all were like this one...
I believe (hope) all the general issues will be addressed in a very quick manner. This game is a very serious project, everything about it should be taken care of very seriously if they want to have it for the long run.
I see no real rage. I think everyone understands why they sharded the servers to start with, and are willing to wait to end it, we just want to make sure that it is going to end asap(which does NOT mean immediately, necessarily).
I see a few people trying to troll up some rage tho
What some don't understand about Neutrality.
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No, I was pointing out that if you make a couple choices that leave you slightly off the mark, you can fix it to get to where you need to be, thats totally within the limits of the issue, unless you want to make gear that is unrestricted(will end up with hundreds of identical jedi) or make gear specific for each level of light/dark. For neutral, you have 2000 points of leeway(total, 1k each direction) and I DO think that there should be alot of high end rewards for being dedicated to a path.
But then, I play a force user, and it DOES mean alot to my character. A non-force user should have equal gear, itemized for them, that are not alignment restricted(easy, make sure it gives bonuses that are mainly useless to force users) to free them to make realistic choices.
Honestly, a force user is always going to follow alignment if being played right, even the the alignment they are following is neutral, so that is where the issue should be as far as neutral specific gear, not on the tech users.