In order for polls to be accurate they need a random sample. To get that you would have to be able to get a random sample of the people who play the game not the people who post on this forum, two very different populations. There is also a lot of narcism around here. I personally quit for reasons not pertinent here but I never thought I represented the norm, much less the majority. To do so without any data to back that up either way is delusional thinking. It'd be like saying I hate Macdonalds, which I do by the way, so everyone else must hate Macdonalds and they be closing all of their doors within the month. It's just wishful thinking and no matter how much you want it it's not going to come to pass.

I know this is a silly topic but my subscription time almost up and I’m curious enough to make it my last thread. I know the game doesn’t make its money on subscriptions, too few of us for that, but on micro transactions through the cartel market. You would think they would make the game much harder to encourage people to buy items off the Cartel Market to make the game eaiser but they keep making game easier and more streamlined, great for players but bad for the bottom line. The fact that this is an AAA MMORPG, with all the monthly costs that go along with that, shows this game is making Bioware/EA a LOT of money, otherwise they would have closed shop years ago but I can’t figure out how.

This. For the record I think almost all the changes are positive ones that are going to make the game much better and far more assessable to far larger audience. Level synch is really exciting example of 4.0 potential greatness. All of the combat changes over the years have made us godlike to the 1.0 mobs and bosses and killing everything in a couple seconds isn't fun it just isn't. Like reboots for comics I honestly believe far more people are going to jump on than people like me who decide to quit. IMO the best days of this game are ahead of it. I’m not arrogant enough to think just because I quit something it’s going to fail institutions don’t work like that. The in/game reason why I quit was this one change despite the fact that everything else sounds awesome. My sole interest in Swtor are the class stories so I crafted purple schematics for every Cybertech armoring, ear pieces, and mods, Biochem implants, stims, adrenals and mepacs for all four stats. It all my schematics had been converted to the mastery stat that would be one thing but I have no interest in starting over. That might be petty I guess would be the word but it how I honestly feel. The out of game reason why I quit is that a pet peeve of mine is when adults react like children especially when to loss which is where Swtor comes in for me. A lot of you are far younger than me so not being far removed from childhood it might not be a big deal when a 16 year old reacts to events as a 10 year old would it might even be funny but when a 40 year old does it the thing just sad. I don’t want to be that guy the grown man reacting on the forum like a ten year old so I'm getting out before I make a fool of myself over a game of all things. I was really hoping to leave the game on a positive note to reflect the wonderful time for the hundreds if not thousands of hours I put into the game so again thank all of you for making that possible in-game and on the forum. I wish all of you the best in the game and in life in general. Lester

Well that's it I guess. The world came to an end for crafting so I unsubbed, deleted the game and and this will be my last post. Everyone been so generous with their time and knowlege so I wanted to thank all of you especially the crafters online. The smart play would be to keep all your secrets to yourself and not give anything to the competition but everyone so generous here with information it was really somtething special. Again thank all of you.

No. Armoring got moved to two different crew skills. Cybertech is getting enhancements. Artifice doesn't make Rellics anymore but that was from a yellow dev post rather than the official blog post. Also I don't think anyone making mods anymore but again that was from a Dev post which I might have misread I don't want to give out false information I hate it when people do that.

I think that the customer service forum become read-only archive is a very bad sign. Maybe they are simply replacing it with something else but yea bad sign.

When I unsubscribed today this was the reason I gave. I felt like I owed them the truth but actually reading what I wrote I came across as a baby mad about my toys taken away even though they were replaced by other toys. At least I was positive about it, I think the devs are going for the casual MMO palyer, if such a demographic exists and I hope they find it. They are working so hard and are so ambitious about everything, even if I'm not a part of it I hope it pays off big for all concerned.

They are relaunching the whole game as much as they can but on a budget. I have seen no game press on any of the changes if they are counting on viral marketing to launch the rebirth of the game they are in for a shock.

Thanks.

I'm about to unsubscribe right now. I'm not just a fan of the game but the posters and gamers. If someone could ask for my stuff that would feel great as that line never gets old and is a time honored traditional proper sendoff for veteran players. I want mine.

If this happened to you OP try opening a ticket. I doubt they will help you but it's free to do so and who knows you might get someone sympatheic on the other side.

It's fine. Crafting is going to be optional now like Warzones, Flashpoints, Starfighter. You can do it if you like it but there no real payoff anymore. Doesn't matter there are still enough people to make a go for all those things if you are interested and if not you can still beat the game with minimal effort which is why I do all those things for the challange.

Isn't there suppose to be a warning if you are about to make a really big purchase? I feel for anyone that fallen prey to this. Can't tell you how many times the warning message I got for almost sending wrong credits/items to an alt. One time was for a brand new toon which represented every credit I had in the game. Wait I just had an idea. I think I've done this. I use the same tactics as stores do instead of charging 20 dollars I'll label it as 19.99. I always price my mats in the middle of the pack though so I don't think I tricked anyone into thinking they were paying twenty when I was asking for two thousand.

Aside from the fact that learned schematics are going to be useless the stream informed us that stuff getting moved around. We will know more in a blog post but, and this is hypothetical, armorings and mods won't be crafted by Cybertech but oh say Armotec. They are giving us all blue schematics to start so I don't mind so much but no way am I starting a new toon until I know what crafts implants, armoring, mods and enhancements as all four are must haves for me not buy anything in the game besides rellics and augments both on GTN. When I start up the game again, a couple years from now as I'm burned out, I'm going to have the equilvent of everything I know now which again isn't a big deal because we get all blues. I will miss my purple schematics but honestly blue fine.

Doesn't everyone leave at some point? Come back sure but leave. This is a great game I don't see how players not get burned out over time. I know I'm getting ready to leave not because I hate anything about 4.0 most of it sounds amazing just that i'm burned out.

I love laughing. There are what I consider to be serious flaws in the Smuggler storyline but humour is not one. I would love to know who the lead writer was so I can check out their non-swtor work if it exists.

Because of craft to win stronghold/conquest sales mat sales are white hot right now. If you have underwold trading I'm guessing you have Scavaging? I'm made ten million credits in the past few days. Craft to win is going away soon, as well as a lot of other things that make selling mats profitable so find something else that is selling, shouldn't be too hard, and get moving. The bubble is about to burst now is the time to strike while you can.

I don't see how level synch won't be broken. You get keep all of your passives and abilities earned through higher levels. Even with your stats brought down to the planet level each character is going to be godlike or more godlike. I'm an average player but only other players in Warzones and Flashpoint mobs can kill me, a couple years ago that was most certainly not the case.

Does anyone know what with her hair in the pre 4.0 game? I'm guessing there is a story behind that and you guys might know it. I'm not knocking the character a little too ruthless and backstabby for my tastes which is to be expected given the fact she is a high ranking Sith Lord.

If you guys have time I suggest reading this thread from the begining. Now that we know everthing that coming it's really fun to read the speculative fiction about where we were going and see who was right and who was wrong.

The reaction to level scaling, good and bad has surprised me. I thought everyone would be used to it because that's how warzones and tactical flashpoints work. I thought all the drama was going to come from the core changes to crafting but no one seems to care not even the people who craft for profit. Completely blindsided on this one.

The com thing is crazy. I am 100 percent self sufficent so all my level 60s have their coms maxed out plus three coms they give you 100 coms each once you complete the SOR prologue that I can't cash in because of the limit.

There is a decent change all gear won't be converted and will only be cosmetic. Until the blog clears everything up my advice is just to craft gear you will use before the expac hits. With 12 xp it's always a good idea to craft in advance anyway because you level up and out of gear now way before you can build crafting for that tier which has remained the same speed. 12 xp only for class stories.

The gaming press followed this game intensely before it came out and for a year or so after its release and didn't really stop until it became clear that ftp wasn't going to kill it. Through that entire time the talk was all doom and gloom even from the game press and the game is still around. A month from now I might be gone, you reading this might be gone but the game is still going to be around. If EA hasn't killed it like they have so many other franchises and games I don't see them doing so as long as it's making money and plenty of people out there seem to have very deep pockets so it's going forward with or without us.

I don't see how crafting for profit is going to survive. Players start with blue schematics, fewer mats are going to be needed to craft, and crafting nodes aren't tied to levels anymore. My craft-fu is very weak, I made almost all my millions of credits selling mats but other than selling cartel market items on gtn I don't see anyone becoming to make big credits from crafting alone once we the expansions gets well underway. That said this isn't too bad because they also eliminated the reason for crafting for profit which is to buy stuff that going to be given to you now. Then again the people who actually make money from crafting, rather than selling mats like myself are clever adaptable players so I have a feeling they will figure out something.