Looks like you ran into another clueless/stubborn tank who always guards the healer and refuses to take advice or learn . Also I don't know why he would complain about someone taunting because as far as I know sages and gunslingers don't have any taunts at all. So in your case this guy is just another clueless tank .

ok thank you so much

Hey guys I was wondering what are some good mitigation tanking stats that I can stack for my scourge ? is it mainly shield absorption? Or something else? Thanks in advance for your replies.

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So I was on my 55 marauder who just hit 55 today ^^ . So I decide to do the cz weekly for the basic comms so I que up for the 2 cz tacticals it was me, merc dps, another mara, and a jugg dps. So everything goes fine until we reach the sandstorm boss and before I can type into group chat and say ''whoever has aggro on him kite him to the generator that is lit up green''. the merc dps hits the console and pulls the boss. So we start dpsing him for a few seconds before the dreaded sandstorm starts and once the sandstorm starts the merc that has aggro on the boss trys to kite him to the green generator at the back but the mara or jugg had ripped the aggro from him. So with the sandstorm chipping away at our hp bars the jugg/mara that ripped aggro from the merc had not bothered to bring the boss to the back where myself and the merc was. So The merc types in group chat saying ''BRING HIM HERE!'' and what does the jugg and mara do? they totally ignore the merc so I type saying the same thing ''BRING HIM HERE''! now the jugg and mara finally get our message and start to bring the boss to the generator . It was clear to me that this mara and jugg intended to totally ignore the mechanics of the fight and just flat out burn the boss. Give me your opinion on this guys is it okay to totally ignore the mechanics of this boss fight on sm or no? because IMO I dont think its okay.

I think you made the right decision on that vote kick. Because when a dps pulls ahead of the tank it can sometimes cause lot's of trouble. Because it most of the time forces the tank to use all his taunts to get the aggro off the one dps that pulled ahead. Plus I don't think you were a d**ck for kicking him for ninja looting. I would kick a ninja looter in an instant. They are the only kind of people in the game I actually hate. They hit need on crap their class can not use. It's so frustrating when I was in an fp group the one time and a piece of dps strength gear dropped and it was medium armour I hit need on it for my sentinel and I don't get it! Turns out the one commando dps in my group ninja looted it! boy was I mad . Do some people not know the difference between need and pass? And yes that's right a commando hit need on a piece of strength gear . I whispered him on why he hit need on it and his response was ''for money'' . So I initiate a vote kick on him reason: ninja looting and it goes through and he is removed from the group. And yes he was also hitting need on all previous gear drops as well.

Hammer station hm. I got another ''amazing'' group. So all goes fine until we reach the first boss we say to the healer cleanse the tank at 4-5 stacks and we are good. But now here is where things start to go down hill. We wipe on the first boss 3 times! . Wipe #1: This was both the tank's and the healer's fault. , I jump in and what do I notice? I get all the laser stacks and I am the first one to go down then the tank then the other sent then the healer. This happened due to the tank not holding aggro and the healer not cleansing. Wipe #2: This was the tank's fault we jump in and what do I notice again ? The tank is again not holding aggro on the boss. But at least the healer was cleansing the laser on whoever had it yay! And was throwing out heals but it was not enough:( Wipe #3: Same scenario as wipe number 2. The tank fails to hold aggro on the boss and we all go down again So now on our fourth try we kill the boss!!! hurray!! . But the tank had us use a very chaotic method she told us to all stand on the box and then attack the boss once she kites him there. I am like . But the method works and we kill the boss. That's like the first group I have been in that has used a method like that. The tank probably had us do this to avoid the droid adds. but imo the droid adds are easy to avoid without standing on the box.

Ok thanks for the reply mate!

Yes I would like to see bioware expand all class story lines which would make this game more fun to play. But I am not really fussy on the level expansion like you said. I think lvl 55 is a good enough lvl cap for me.

So would tanks have to throw a guard on whoever is going to generate the most threat?

Czerka core meltdown hm. Me, sage heals, slinger dps, and a guardian tank. We get to the enhanced duneclaw a sand storm starts. The guardian tank fails to get him to the generator in time. So the boss does his rampage which deals all of us a good amount of dps. Plus the additional damage from the sandstorm causes us to wipe. But on our second try we kill the boss no problem. I also noticed that our guardian tank was a tad squishy because he was short a relic plus he had a couple of 140's and 146's equipped which is a little under geared. But no biggie he was holding aggro on the mobs fine. Then once we enter the one part where you have to overload the power conduits, the tank pulls the mob that is guarding the locked up scientists. (which is a mob that can easily be skipped) Before the healer even has a chance to catch up, (and of course the tank died). But me the healer and the slinger dps finish off the mob no problem. After me, the healer and the slinger dps finish off the mob the tank says.... Tank: dough! Me:Well maybe you should wait for the healer to catch up before you pull a big mob. Tank: (no response) Now we just finished overloading power conduit A . But the elite aggroes the tank so the tank attacks the elite for a while. But when the elite is down to half health the tank goes and pulls the silver mob that is guarding the door to the broken bridge . Which almost causes us to wipe again! (the only person that died was the slinger dps). So we finally get to the vigilant and what's even more embarrassing is we wipe on him! . Because I told the people in my group to dodge the spin attacks but none of them listened to me. But I also notice that when everyone is taking damage from his spin attacks the healer is not throwing out any heals which causes us to wipe. So after we wipe the sage healer leaves (rage quit). So I que us up for a replacement and we get a new beefy sage healer with 40k hp and we kill the boss no problem. I think thats the weirdest tank I have ever met in a 55 hm.

Wow do I feel like an idiot now. Sorry I thought you meant something totally different.

Sorry if you found any sarcasm or bossiness in my post. So if you seem offended or angered by my post I apologize. It is never my intention to offend or be rude to another poster.

I did not mean any sarcasm at all mate. And indeed I forgot that shadows should use force pull to start combat and not use it on single foes. So that's my bad I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote my other post. so allow me to edit that then re quote me . Sorry about that and if you find any sarcasm in my post it was not my intention.

Wow one of the first fp stories I have heard where a shadow tank does not use force pull. Force pull is an essential ability for shadows to use especially when pulling a mob.

Yes it was so fun for me and my gm.

Well as i said earlier our group was full dps my gm had to off heal me because when the sent and the commando went down the sand storm was still active which is why my gm had to step in and off heal me. And i thought to myself there is no point in kiting him if we got him down to 25% hp before the sent and commando went down so i said to myself ill just burn him but the sand storm and his rampages were eating me alive btw the kolto stations still had not re spawned which is why my gm had to off heal me. We were using the kolto stations but the one sent kept using them when we did not even need them which is also another reason that i forgot to mention earlier that caused us to wipe the first time. What i mean by Jesus mode is that for example : your group pulls a huge mob in a 55 hm but the tank the healer and one of the dps goes down but miraculously the one dps that is left standing manages to finish off the mob saving the group from a wipe . Btw i may sound a bit repetitive so feel free to call me out on that and im sorry if i overreacted when you told me to break down paragraphs and use complete sentences its just sometimes i get a bit peeved and overreact to other peoples posts

good point indeed never thought of that

yes we used the healing stations we wiped because the one sent that had aggro on him was not kiting him to the generator i had to get my gm to off heal me because when the other sent and commando were dead we were still waiting for the healing stations to respawn. and yes this fp is easy in sm its was the sent that was not kiting the boss that was making the fight hard btw i tried to steal aggro off the one sent that had aggroed the boss so that way i could kite the boss to the generator but the other sent had higher dps than i did so my attempts to steal aggro failed

yes i agree with you i can build 30 stacks of centering in no time also its very easy to build via valorous call

all right since you want me to break down paragraphs so badly here you go... i wanted to finish the cz weekly so i que up for core meltdown and corporate labs i get a que pop within 10 min the group is me (one sent dps) another sent dps my gm (sage dps ) and a commando dps. so all goes fine until we reach the duneclaw boss i ask everyone if they have done the fight before and all reply with a yes and the other sentinel initiates combat but i soon realise that the sentinel is not kiting the boss to the generator which causes us to take additional damage from the sand storm and causes us to wipe so when we get back to the boss i say to the other sent .... me: '' you need to kite the boss to the generator that is lit up green'' other sent: ''what??'' me:*facepalm* so what do i realise again? the other sentinel is again not kiting the boss to the generator that is lit up green so the first two to go down is the other sentinel and then the commando but luckily we survive long enough to get the boss down to 25% hp . so me and my gm go into Jesus mode i manage to finish off the boss while my gm keeps me from dieing with her awesome off heals so we rez the other sent and the commando and finish the fp with no further issues not trying to sound rude but is that now readable for you?

i truly laugh at that operative and how he made a stupid mistake and got himself killed and blamed it on you and how he claimed you were a noob? did he even pop a single heal through the entire fp? lol that operative really makes himself look like a total tard and a noob so i think he is the one that should L2P also imagine him at end game in a hm fp

this one took place about a week ago but here is another one of my weird gf experiences so i wanted to complete the cz weekley and decided to que up and got a group czerka core meltdown nm me as one sent dps another sent dps , my guild master as sage dps and i think a commando dps so everything goes fine until we get to the sand storm boss and i ask just to make sure if everyone knows the fight all reply and say ''yes'' so the other sent starts the fight and then when the first sandstorm activates i realise that the sent is not kiting the boss to the generator that is lit up green whch causes us to take additional damage from the sandstorm and causes us to wipe so then when we get back to the boss i say to the one sent ''you need to kite the boss to the generator that is lit up green'' and the sent says ''what?'' and of course i do a face palm then the sent initiates combat with the boss and what do i realise again? the sentinel is again not kiting him to the generator that is lit up green so the first one to go down is the sent then the commando now all thats left is me and my gm but luckily before the sent and the commando went down we had survived long enough to get the boss down to 25% hp so me and my gm go into Jesus mode i manage to finish off the boss and my gm keeps me from dieing with her off heals so we rez the sent and the commando and we move on and finish the fp with no other issues

lmao i would have stayed to watch that show

i would have considered your case an excellent experience but yes to get a group as good as yours in kdy is pretty rare