When I'm tanking I try to keep an eye on time spent on bosses for dps output. If I notice the dps output sucks, I'll skip the bonus and let the group know why. If they were holding back and can put out a better rotation or stim up then I'll generally cave in and give it 2 tries. But pugging any role is a gamble, dps is more-so for bonus bosses due to enrage timers. take cad for example, if the group can't get the patrol bot down by over 50% during the first freeze... There's no way we could beat the enrage timer or get close enough for me to proc defenses and finish it on the bonus. Hammer is generally about 3-4 lasers and the boss needs to be downed or we need a really good sniper that can hunker at the right time.

Do you also have a problem with unlocking the character and legacy perks with cartel coins? Because that was implemented forever ago (exaggeration) but seems to be nearly the same idea. I mean yeah, the unlocked perks aren't a useless npc (minus the mail,repair,gtn,ect.) but those are ok... Right? Or maybe you weren't bothered by the collections system only being cc unlocked? If you are JUST now seeing this trend rolling in, you're late to the party...

yup, only had my healer die once with her. Mainly because in VS she ran around the wall without me, mind you we were in mumble so it was an easy "to the other side, nao" I only had threat issues on my main, Zeva once... Mainly because of Enraged Defense, and not knowing what it did. So at under 20% health I would selectively proc defensive buffs, well ed was my last resort after all others proc'd and on cd... Well needless to say the healer of that group had a juggertank and saw what I was proccing and explained it to me after about 3/4ths of hammer so, now to contribute a story. This was a little bit ago on my Sniper. Which is funny playing dps after nothing but tanks so you can really see the bad tanks... Like REALLY bad tanks. "Tank": 21 pt Dps: 18 sniper (more hp than tank) 19 Juggernaut (in tank and dps gear) Healer: 17 operative So I judge a team by the 3rd mob of hammer, cc one Droid the dps jugger breaks it, re-cc pt breaks it, re-cc after telling them to finish the others first. Breaks it... Pt dies, jugg dies, I tank the last 4 droids and snipe/ambush them all with cover heals and op heals. On the way back the pt and juggernaut decide to duo the mob at the other end of the starting area and just as me and the healer with low hp JUST got there so I have to tank them, so I cc the big Droid while I go to work on the trash, weeell remember that pt? Guess who broke cc? That's right... The pt. Well after that I try to explain Cc'ing but only the healer and half tank jugger listen while the pt just says "ok... Can we go now?" zoom ahead a little. I salvage the shortcut to the boss, me and healer continue to the boss... Pt and jugger meanwhile had their own plan of fighting their way to the boss, so op and I run after them, this time we made it. All while the pt is raging about how we were slacking off, so we told him about the shortcut and told him to scroll up and see where the op said "yay shortcut". So during the first boss, I managed to tank about 60% of the time. I had to slow down to using mainly my basic atk, so I ask the pt if he is using taunt, "uh... Duh!! I'm the tank!" to which I replied "oh, is that why target of target has my name, and I've had to use just a basic atk hoping that you would regain threat for about a min now?" ...prepare to facepalm... He said "why aren't you doing your job and killing this guy? You're just spamming a useless attack! Maybe if you actually used your attacks I would be able to tank him!! No wonder this is taking forever!!!" then the healer interjected with "if you're the best tank in the world, then why am I healing the only other person without any type of tanking gear?!" vote kicks wen out for pt, taught the half tank juggernaut how to tank, ran the rest of it with no hitches.. And didn't even need to replace.

lol, guess he really hates dark siders? I did that a few times... Lucky for me none of the others flipped out

well, considering that this character was a pvp tank walking in with never less than 30k hp (unbuffed) from lvl 15 and defensive stats like the following link: https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/1010047_10200442743174856_2022985786_n.jpg (unbuffed) yeah, it's well worth it. And until lvl 35 I never went above blues or mk3 augs with shield or abs but if I could get it end, at 35 I had one of my friends craft purple force wielder armorings other than those, blues. minus 10-15, I never had much issue with threat or control... Discharge > shock > discharge > electrocute > maul x2 & repeat until you got a taunt. I have run a few mid lvl and above level flashpoints on her, even duo'd a few that were just turning green with a dps in guild. At 35 I seem to have found a happy place, but she will always be the pvp tank for my healer(after all, she requested that I build a sin tank)

I'll upload a later level photo when I return from Vegas, but this is lvl 22 with over 7k... You can't tell me you doubt 15 levels+ can net a simple 4k hp also, minus some crafted purple armorings, I'm using blues; mk1-3 augs and high end crafted imps/ear https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/1013963_10200442672213082_1355488204_n.jpg also, my guild/personal healer's favorite line is "you can't heal stupid"... Thought if fit your story

lol, I would love to see someone tell me my lowbie tank gear was crap... I had 11k hp at 35 that's more than some 50s can muster up

Balmorra through ilum heroics. should be able to solo/duo up to Voss

I have one of each tank imperial and working on the force users pubside. If I come across a shoddy tank on one of my other classes or get pulled as dps and switch gear and role I will generally be kind and help the other tank with what I know and offer a 1 on 1 training in a duo-able FP if they want to know more. I also pvp tank on all of them, and starting to get some training in owpvp areas for some who are learning.

Wait for the next update, when the speeders aren't available for defense. New strategies will be all over the place and be win or lose. But probably more mid reliant. the thing with 2/6/0 is it has been tested and proven by time. People running 2/5/1 or 0/4/4 or 4/4/0 or 4/0/4 are not setting roles or people aren't following and end up running the wrong spots... Or they are just bads and can't 1v1 or call incs until after death

reference for Malak sash /signed

yep, I know a few people that are terribad tanks. They gave up on tanking even after I had a 1 on 1 training with them In a 50 FP showing them taunt, cc placement, ect ect. Some of the people I taught have kept their tanks and run well with them, but it isn't just a jump in and roll with it role...

Can't beat 'em? ...Join 'em! aka, nade first... Problem?

I was able to duo all the fps on ilum, now I can solo them. I was/am tank spec with a dps guildie when I duo'd. Possibly you can try that? But to your main point, when I play my dps characters I seldom queue. I mainly ask my guild what FPs people feel like running and usually that turns into two full groups doing fps all night. EAwares new role neutral fps are coming out to make your queue time as dps easier on time. /dunno

Huttball is great... With a good team. Sometimes even a 3 man premade can't pull the weight of the other 5...

"I'd rather see Alderaan blown into space rubble than ..." I really wish there was a "Soon™" response you can offer...

lol, was this in BC?

Well, so far... Through theory crafting and itemizing armor types via askmrrobot dropping max of shield, def, or abs on a jugg only affects maybe 1-3% dmg... The difference is the type of dmg. I would rather have an extra 4-5% force/kinetic reduction by stacking shield than 1% more melee/ranged by stacking def. Seems a worthy trade-off to me... /dunno

Body 4 male Jedi "Obese'wan Kenobi"

warrior pvp gear from pre:2.0

remove the recruit gear... Any of it, it was good for 50 pvp, but bolster won't touch anything with expertise on it. So a lvl 53-55 green is better than a lvl 50 recruit. You are hurting your overall stats with it.

/signed min/max conq is redonk... Especially when the stat priorities on stock conq is just like a macaroni picture made with a piece of paper, glue, and throwing a handful of pasta at the paper.

I leveled fairly quickly with just WZs, not nearly as fast as pve sure... But I would rather see my class play in WZs so I don't walk into 55 with that pve hotkey and fighting style of "stand and deliver/die" plus reaching Valor 40 pre55 helps since I can buy Conq out the gate and be a beneficial use for the guild ranked teams.

Queue for exp, comms, and valor only on double exp weekends. Otherwise it's mostly lowbies or alts just trying to level faster. I had a character I planned on leveling via pvp only. Got to valor 40, traded in for ranked comms and I'll just level via pve till 50-53 then pvp for max comms before 55

no mid wall, so you could see the other side and strut over easier. Making stalemates or kill all on a 4bar door lock an instacap