"It adds something to pvp" yes it adds the fact that I can't gear up all 3 of my lvl 50's or play any more stories if I want to pvp and gear up.

That's my marauders name Edit: Oh and time to kill is garbage right now, focus on problem #1 first then you can get back to screaming about marauders.

Hi, I'm a Marauder from way back before the ever original FOTM term was being thrown around. I just wanted to stop by and throw up the white flag. Nerf us, remove ravage, increase our cooldown re-use timers, shorten our sabers...but 1 thing, When we still kick your *** in pvp for not knowing what the hell you are doing promise to unsub then too. Enough crying Madness Juyo

If you enjoy pvp I think you should work on leveling a Marauder or a Sentinel depending on which side you chose to play.

You must fight some baddies to just use 3 buttons...I guess I should say Annihilation spec....but I would hope you are using more than 6 abilities in any spec

Apparently no one read the ridiculous difference as to how expertise effects +dmg over +dmg reduction...and heals So many posts about 1 class when the issue is expertise change.. if you even PLAY a wz now you should realise how fast you are dying even if no sent/marauder is around Still 1 shot?

To the OP, state how you would fix/nerf/destroy/balance our class and we'll say how we will still kick your ***. I doubt it's a class balance issue that is ruining your day in pvp. Unless you use anywhere near the keybinds we have to use PER fight ..just get out of pvp. Here are a few of mine R Shift+R E Shift+E V Shift+v X Shift+X Q Shift+Q F Shift+F G Shift+G Z Shift+Z Shift+W 1 2 3 4 Shift+1 Shift+2 Shift+3 Shift+4 Mouse Wheel click Shift Mouse wheel click Mouse thumb Shift Mouse thumb Think that's it.. I probably use all of those in 1 fight. Yes i do have an elbow injury to prove it

Idiotic crap spewing of an original post there sunshine. Not even going to ask if you are sub 50 because it nearly feels the same now with +dmg being 25% and dmg reduction being 18% (ya right that has never worked properly) and healing getting screwed at 11% ish. Basically feels like sub 50 pvp at lvl 50 now so your amazingly detailed research on one class is worthless.

Edit: forgot to mention i do know about the changes in patch today, and it's a we will see type of thing. Skip to bottom if you don't feel like reading my well thought out post I just want to give my thought on what the game meant to me before, and after 1.2 and Hope that people understand where a lot of the upset posts are coming from. I have 3 level 50's and all of my character slots filled and I love that fact.. Pre 1.2 I was pvp'ing every night with all 3 of my 50's which were valor 55 or higher pre valor change, and enjoying the progression of their gear while doing so. I was also about to dig into the Agent storyline as my 4th I wanted to hit 50 with. This was all being done within a nice evening of playing, raiding etc on off nights.. Post 1.2 i just feel all of my choices are gone, 1000 matches to gear up 1 lvl 50 seems a bit "play our way or sorry" type of idea. So I can work on that 4+ hours a night for 1 character with battlemaster gear full, and forget my other 50's or playing alts.. or just chose not to worry about pvp I guess? And I LOVED pvp'ing for fun, but without gear progression to help you keep up with like minded players progressing as well that point is invalid. To Sum up Pre 1.2 --- 3 Level 50's pvp each night gearing up. Having time to play alts and enjoy even more storylines on both repub and imperial. Enjoying raid progression Post 1.2 PvP 1 lvl 50 with full battlemaster 1050 matches plus minus a few to get geared with new items. Break that down into around 175 hours, or 2 months of doing nothing for my evenings but pvping on that one character. Scrapping my alts, scrapping my other level 50's for pvp as you can nearly double the time for each character. I want to play the game my way again.. MMO Role playing game.. but doesn't have to be 1 role.. or we should have 1 character slot

Part of the fun of pvp for me at least was playing ALL 3 of my lvl 50's in a day and making some sort of progress.. at the rate you earn rewards now.. That is over 100 hours worse case scenario for a piece of the new stuff with my full BM character double that for my characters that don't yet have their BM pieces Who the (blank) has that kind of time? lol and it isn't effort so i don't want to see anyone spewing that garbage here.. I have no problem with risk vs reward etc but all the system takes is luck and insane amounts of time available to play.

I quit a warzone for basically the first time ever that didn't find me bugged laying down in spawn or w'ever. The reason was I joined.. team was losing so clearly someone already left, and there was no way I was going to get medals required to make the time spent worth it. So i quit to beat all of them back into the queue =\ So lame.. and since then I've quit pvp anyway. I managed 102 wz comms in an hour which = 30 ranked... I need 3000+ for the piece I want so at that rate 100 pvp hours. Nope Yes it was a bad hour, but really I don't care anymore I don't have that kind of time.

I love pugs! on the other side, but pvping with guildies in voice chat is just way more fun.

Doesn't take long to gear up, you'll see the fights are a lot more fun when someone doesn't die in 2 hits as would be without expertise (lvl 49 and under) was a good time but c'mon it was just learning your skills really.

let me add a little bit of insight.. some already stated. Since I play a marauder which every class but marauder/sentinel thinks is easy to play I'll post some of my keybinds. R Shift+R E Shift+E V Shift+v X Shift+X Q Shift+Q F Shift+F G Shift+G Z Shift+Z Shift+W 1 2 3 4 Shift+1 Shift+2 Shift+3 Shift+4 Mouse Wheel click Shift Mouse wheel click Mouse thumb Shift Mouse thumb Think that's it.. I probably use all of those in 1 fight

Whereas if you had an editor, you wouldn't come off like a brain dead ****. /win