Nor does proper discussion apparently. Whether or not the OP was troll, the replies have all been, "You suck. So, you want another WOW-clone. I support this person wholeheartedly." My favourite part is when some people attack a person's character and grammar stating they must be X years old, or that they don't even understand how to properly capitalize or spell. It's never about the discussion. Some people say that if someone doesn't like a game, they shouldn't play it. Thing is, they just don't like some of these new "features" that have been added to simplified(dumb-down) the game to fit more casual players. They feel that something feels a little too hard, unfair, or even too much effort it should be made more simple, so they can have an easier time. But, no that's not how some people "discuss" topics, they just attack the opposition. Some people don't use reason, they just state that they are right and you are wrong. It's always about bashing the other person, and justifying that what you feel is better because the other person just doesn't understand anything. I give props to those few that try to have honest discussions, but how can you have a decent discussion when no one wants to discuss.

I'm not sure how everyone is doing now that everything has been rolled out in update 4.0 and the subsequent patch, but I am currently not even capable of connecting to the servers once the client is launched. The launcher runs just as good as the new design looks, but as soon as I hit the play button the client opens, and there is an empty server list. A message pops up stating that the game is trying to connect to the servers, and it closes the client after the message pops up a subsequent. I have done tracerts and pings, but it always seems to climb a mountain once it hits hop 9 zip.zayo.com. At the moment the jump in ms is pretty tame which suprised me. I thought i'd be able to at least connect to the server, but it's still a no-go. 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms [Me ] 2 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms [i Don't Think So] 3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms [ComCast] 4 13 ms 11 ms 11 ms [ComCast] 5 13 ms 12 ms 15 ms [ComCast] 6 11 ms 12 ms 10 ms 68.86.88.54 7 17 ms 16 ms 19 ms as6461.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [66.208.229.254] 8 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms ae14.cr2.ord2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.31.69] 9 42 ms 41 ms 39 ms v101.ae29.cr2.dca2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.30.68] 10 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms ae1.er2.iad10.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.20.122] 11 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms 64.125.199.190.t00673-02.above.net [64.125.199.190] 12 39 ms 40 ms 40 ms 159.153.92.69 13 40 ms 42 ms 40 ms 159.153.92.28 How is everyone else doing? Still no acknowledgement from BW.

This. This is exactly how I feel.

I Completely agree with this. Another point to add would be that Mastery seems a bit too catered to the casual, F2P gamer. People subscribe to the game because they enjoy, for the most part, the system that is in place. It works. Now, though, we are going to be forced into a stat equalization across levels because SOME players are too hard-headed to invest some time into the stat system that is in place currently. In this instance, I decided to take my time, and study the different stat that are in the game and the different combinations that would make my class the most effective at what it does. Now, all that time was wasted, for everything that I worked to perfect will just be balanced, so lazy people can be just as good as someone who invested so much time in their characters.