May the force be with you all.

I take a different tack on it. If when I hit 50 I am still enjoying the game, THEN I will buy the expansion. If not so be it.

You know what I am American and playing on American servers but I totally understand the frustration of these people stuck on dead servers. Some things in online games just flat become impossible to accomplish without a decent population number. I have been through that in several other games. The thing that I fine incomprehensible in all this is the dead silence these people are getting. BW/EA could alleviate so much anger by simply talking to them. Right now they don't know if a solution is coming or not. Unfortunately the Cynic in me tends to think BW/EA isn't talking because they are not planning to do anything about it. Worse perhaps can't think of a good solution because they are so locked into the fact that one of the servers is PvP.

If they are in the US or Canada you can buy EA Game Cards all over the place and those work for the expansion, CC purchases or even subscriptions

Actually I have real mixed luck with prepaid credit/debit cards and online purchases of any sort. Sometimes they work and sometimes not its real hit or miss.

If you are in the US or Canada there is the EA Game Card available from Gamestop and walmart and a few other places that WILL work to put cash on your account for the expansion or CC.

When you have had to fight with a game company because they repeatedly tried to charge your credit card for over $75,000 (which failed every time and piled up nearly $10,000 in fees). Then had to fight with the game company to convince them you did not OWE $75,000 you owed $75. Then they offer to give you a $10,000 game credit to cover the fees they incurred (meanwhile you still have to pay the credit card off). Yeah you tend to get a bit paranoid and refuse to take a risk again. I respect others do not feel as I do about it. Fortunately someone in another thread has given me a solution that might well work. EA Game Cards which I did not know work for this game as SWTOR is not listed on the site for them.

TY for this I wasn't aware these worked for this game as SWTOR is not listed in the information. You have given me hope of continuing this game.

ONLY way to get it is to buy it from the online store. I have been looking for an alternative myself but it really looks like there is no other choice. For me that means I will never be able to buy it. Sad

I think it very unlikely BW/EA will relent and put Makeb on the Cartel Shop and that saddens me. I am relatively new to this game and currently a subscriber via time card. Having been burned many times by game companys over charging, double and triple (and worse) charging and generally messing me up financially, I absolutely refuse to give them financial information anymore. I realize this is my choice. I had believed that I would be able to handle subscription + coin purchases by Time card and the Cartel Coin Cards that have been announced (though not yet released). Because BW/EA refuses to put Makeb in brick and mortar stores OR the Cartel Shop I effectively cannot ever get it. Which means my time playing this game has a pretty solid end date. Once I have leveled the characters I want to level to 50 there is nothing further for me to do. Game ends there for me. Knowing I have that end date is really making me rethink my decision to subscribe at all.

I only want to see 3 things in the store. One will probably happen the other 2 I doubt very much ever will. Probably happen: Additional character slots Not going to happen: Credit cap increase and the Makeb expansion So yeah the shop is pretty fail for me. I am sub now though with the Makeb announcement (not being in the shop) I am seriously thinking I may drop to Preferred.

I can't speak for later in the game since I subbed right after I left the starting world, but on the starting world the only quest rewards I did not receive as F2P were to credit boxes. I got all the gear rewards.

Only advantage I see is no credit cap and frankly I don't believe that is enough anymore.

Thinking further on the issue of this "digital Expansion" and it not being available for cartel coins I find myself more and more resigned to the idea that my days in this game are numbered. For me it is choice not to give financial information to gaming companys. For others they don't have it to give. For whatever reason there are people all over the world without credit cards or paypal. They are now locked out of the expansion just as I am. Really bad move there BW/EA. Years ago after the TSO/EALand debacle I told myself I would never give money to EA again. So I didn't try this game until F2P. Liked it so much that against my better judgement I went out and bought a time card and subbed. Now I am starting to think my original assessment was right. Don't support EA with my money. If there is no change on the position about selling the expansion for CC then I will be dropping back to preferred and when that becomes to much trouble or I run out of content I am out. I know no one cares. I suspect EA doesn't care. This is how I feel about it and I wanted it said in a place where someone from EA might just read it.

I am not cancelling now but if they stick to the plan of not allowing the expansion to be bought with CC then my time in game is limited. I will not give any game company financial information. I am subscribed by time cards purchasable in a retail store. The expansion will not be put in retail stores and only available through the website. so that means I can't get it. Eventually I will run out of things to do without the expansion and unsub.

Well that pretty much guarantees I wont ever get it. NO game company gets financial information from me (I have been burned too many times). If I can't get it in a store or with CC (from my gamecard sub or cc cards when they come out) I just will do without. What a shame.

Really it is very simple. If you do not like what BW/EA is doing with this expansion DON'T BUY IT. Speaking with your wallet will send them a far better message that all the crying on the forums will. If you are ok with the expansion then by all means buy it and enjoy. I for one will not be buying it now. I have no characters anywhere near the level to need it yet. When I get there if I am still enjoying the game enough to justify the money I will buy it then.

I came with the first f2p and subbed my second day. I do not yet have a character above 15. I am having a blast doing the starting areas for all 8 classes. Mind you I am a horrid altaholic in every game I played. I will hit the 25+ areas....eventually.

Not particularly defending this practice but here is what I think is going on. I suspect they have set up a set time (a week or so) that they delay delivering your stipend to ensure your payment clears the bank. That way if it fails they don't have to sort out what coins to remove particularly if you have spent them.

Many of us who post on these forums and engage on debate (sometimes heated) do so because we DO care about this game and its success. If we didn't care we wouldn't waste time posting. Certainly on any gaming forums there are trolls who only pop in to bash the game or harass people that enjoy the game. Those folks really are not the majority I don't think. As for me I play the game. Probably more than I should really. I ENJOY the game immensely. I have long sections of my day where I can't be playing and during those times I haunt the forums and engage in debates that I feel that I have something to contribute to. I do this because I still hold out a small hope that someone at EA might see the debate and people's ideas and take it to other people who can make changes to the game to benefit everyone.

Epic!

... when you actually start thinking Corso is cute in a dopey sort of way

You know when I was new and still on the starting planet I managed to get a group with an experienced player for one of the heroic quests. I made mistakes. He was cool with it and helped me figure out what I was doing wrong. He showed me where the datacrons were (well he had to explain WHAT a datacron was first). I asked if I could add him to friends so if I ran into QUESTIONS later I had someone to ask. He agreed. I thanked him PROFUSELY. I also even to this day exhaust every resource I can come up with to get answers to questions for myself and only bother him with a question if I just can't find the answer. These days I pay his kindness forward as much as I can. There ARE good people out there both veteran and newbie. We just have to set aside our jaded senses long enough to find them.

First off IF they allow coins to be earned in game it needs to be MUCH harder to do than the OPs list. That list would add up to way too many coins too fast simply by rolling an alt. Second. Everyone F2P and preferred included must be able to earn the coins. Either everyone has the opportunity on this or no one does. The fact is if they make earning the coins difficult enough nearly everyone will end up buying coins rather than earning them so it is no big loss of income to let F2P/Preferred folks have the opportunity. It also will serve as a good incentive to try the game since it is POSSIBLE (though a stupid lot of work) to earn everything you need. The restrictions on Preferred in particular are way to much already adding in this disparity would force more people who could contribute money to support the game to walk away rather than subscribe. It would not be an incentive to subscribe.

In this thread http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=571736 Someone actually explains what is happening and how to fix it.