Never had a problem with the skill. It's also one of a thousand things that may trigger an epileptic episode. They can't make every last thing epilepsy safe. Now I would suspect turning off bloom may help you out but you will just have to play with your settings.

Honestly I think it to be ****** design you have to keep popping cd's like we do. I mean I know we aren't tanks but for ****s sake we have to use them more than other classes. However what you said is true.

I don't know man we already have make them pay and heal to full so this would be seriously OP.

Well you have a few options here to not play the spec that has that move and end your torture. I see no issue with the move at all. Darth Traya used to control 3 lightsabers with her mind so I see no reason why one saberstaff couldn't be spun around by others. As far as why would one use the move? Well you really answered yourself there: shock and awe. It leaves your opponent open to an exploit and while they are worried about the spinning disc of death whirring at them, no telling what you could hit them with. Yes I have seen this move in Star Wars... right here in this game. Not everything has to be exactly like the movies nor is it nor should it be. This one move you take exception with because it isn't martial artsy enough for you but there are so many other moves that are quite silly in game. But then isn't that the point? This game has to reach a broad enough spectrum to keep people entertained. One spec has a move you disagree with and you want BW to make an exception and put another ability in the rotation? No I say play another spec or just deal with the move. You have every right to voice your dissatisfaction with the choice but I cannot agree with your solution.

Well considering I never once said we should actually have that ability then your "logic" is off. But you are right about mmo's in general. They tend to somewhat homogenize abilities over time which is why I have never once stated I actually wanted the ability on my assassin. Sarcasm is lost on the masses.

If you read the posts up until now you'd see I'm not asking for something other classes have. It was tongue in cheek as I was making a comparison for the OP.

And you are missing the point.... I want to choke everyone!

Why not thought choking someone is pretty cool too.

Of course it would be cool. It would also be cool if Tanksins could get every other skill in the book. Can't have everything you know so they gave us what they did. Trust me many times when I am on my sin I long for Force Choke, Leap, Smash etc etc. But then on my Mara there a lot of cool toys I don't get that my sin does. So honestly I would say no I don't want a saber throw for my assassin. I mean if we get that where does it end because people will just ask for more.

This is your problem. You are running into premade teams looking for comms. Maybe not a full team but there is obvious teamwork going on other than the standard fare you normally find in pubs if you are having a hard time like you say. Together two sorcs can be pretty strong but they can be shutdown and once focused their dps goes down by a lot. An obvious needed flaw of a ranged class. Besides unless you are light spec'd FS doesn't even strike very hard. Yes it's a nice ability when you can use it but if they are madness or corruption they would normally only be using it to defend a node or possible help finish off a few low health players that are already being focused though in most cases another ability would be better when specc'd that way.

Yeah but no one knows who that guy is so his opinion doesn't count:D

That has been as staple of the dps spec since launch.

We do get it as assassins it's called Voltaic Slash.

Compared to some other games I have played and remember I did say to some extent yes in my opinion it has.

I rock Decendant's Heirloom Lightsaber on every toon I have and I also use the dual saber for my sin. If the saber ever fails you can just stab people with it. I used to use Tythonian and a few others but I was tired of not seeing the animation during combat and having to sheath then pull it out again to get it to show back up.

While I admit I think it would be cool I have to say no. I don't want an ability that another class has. I get really tired of MMO's constantly homogenizing classes where you no longer have any real difference other than one shoots lightning and the other shoots fire. This game has done very well I think at keeping that from happening to some extent.

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This made me laugh so hard! Thank you OP. What is funnier is that I laughed harder at all the derp that don't get it.

Oh hell no it wasn't. If only because that one time you happen to be near someone when they are so low on health that you can smash them with what is probably the least damaging ability in game. I have done it a few times and it is OH SO GLORIOUS! Reminds me of when I would wand someone to death as a mage in WoW before they took that skill away -_- damn that was demeaning to the guy on the end of it.

The problem you are having is because the dps isn't focus firing so that is everyones queue to get them doing it. It doesn't excuse being a lazy tank. Yes tanks threat gen in this game is high but when you use subpar abilities then that is the reason a dps peels off you. If you had followed a proper rotation starting the pull then nothing they would do would pull the mob off you unless they severely outgear you or you don't do your rotation properly. This is all I will say on this as I don't have time to waste on it further.

Coming from a healer standpoint you could not be more wrong. Point blank bro there is no spot for Overload in a tanks rotation. At the start of a fight or anywhere else unless absolutely needed for some odd reason. You obviously do not watch your healers health bar if you think this is correct. I can't tell you how many times I have had to pop cd's just to heal through all the aggro because as soon as you get hit by 4 to 5 mobs and I have to drop a few big heals on you they are now on me because your front loaded threat is too weak. You say that you explain to the dps and heals not to use the skill when you are in a FP. Tell me exactly how much harder it is if they agree with you to say hey I am going to los this pack stand at point X? Check the parses of any top assassin tank and you will almost never see overload used at all let alone to start a pull. There is a reason for that.

You would build threat so much faster if you would use discharge/force breach and then start tab targeting. Overload is extremely situational and it is almost always a bad idea to use it. There are times when you can use it to push a mob off a ledge or into a wall which is great. However if you want to position your targets then you should be running up to the biggest pack and smacking them with discharge/ force breach and/or hitting them with Wither/Slow Time both of which generate a huge amount of threat then using force pull on the stragglers. Or better yet LOS pull around a corner so they will be grouped up and you can hit them with the skills aforementioned. Overload is soooooo NOT an AOE damage skill though it has a minute amount of damage attached to it or a threat builder. Stop using it as such people. Especially you sorcs that would be better off killing single targets than to waste your time running up and using overload. The GCD you spend using that ability unless you are totally swamped (which means the tank isn't doing their job and you have much bigger problems) is so much better spent doing your normal rotation.

Lols man way to check the date.

I have done a lot of healing in mmo's. In fact is is by far my favorite thing to do. I used to shy away from it and tanking and honestly still not crazy about tanking but I really enjoy healing. Having said all that I am in the same boat as you OP. I can see from the tree things will get better but it isn't just the low end of the tree. All low level healers are kinda crap in this game. I feel it is not so much that the heals suck but because puggers don't know how to avoid damage. I can't tell you how many times I have told people how and what to do and they still stand in fire, don't use any defensive cd whatsoever and they don't try to avoid damage (like where a boss stands still to do a cleave or aoe near him that you can run away from)! It is infuriating and at times it will make you feel like a loser. Keep at it because it is a very rewarding job even if your team doesn't thank you. You know you are a huge reason everyone made it out alive. I have gone through 7 FP's today on my level 22 operative and man there have been some trying times. DPS that jump in and attack before the tank. That one pisses me off more than anything I think. It is so much easier when the damage is concentrated. However enough of the rant. KEEP IT UP AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED! Oh and try to find guildies to run with. Communication is key!

Well lets see the OP asked for a 36 point darkness build so that is what he wants. Which none of your proposals match. So if you think the other specs posted are garbage then show us what you would do with 36 points in darkness.