I know, right? This is something that a Machiavellian, smart evil character would do. Use your enemy and then discard him when he's no longer useful. Bioware only lets you play Stupid Evil however. As for Arcann, well... I couldn't care less about him or his "redemption". I feel sorry for Senya (and it hurt me so much having to kill her, but that's what my BH would do...) and even for Vaylin, but Arcann? He can die for all I care.

I felt so sorry for Vaylin and her abuse at the hands of her father is horrifying... and I hate that you are "pushed" so to speak, to try and redeem Arcann and feel sympathy for him. Talk about double standards. Arcann is not seeing the light on the day again just on principle

Between this and the dumb "Virmire" choice, I think I'm finally done with the game. It feels as if the Dev want to get rid of our old companions so they can focus on the new ones, which sucks because while I like Lana and Theron I couldn't care less about Senya or Arcann or their family drama.

The Devs apologising? It's going to be cold in hell before that happens. The bug is still there, well, good to know my early access time is wasted.

Another +1 Been trying to finish Chapter 16 but I can't get past that battle

Question, when do you get Theron's 2nd letter? I finished CH9 yesterday but I haven't got it yet.

True, and? While I can't speak for all classes, some companions felt "right" for my characters others just felt forced, and some others even more forced and out of character (Skadge for example). Gault is just not a companion my BH would take if I RP her. (Corso is another that feels forced, then again, my Smuggler and I hate him but I can see why some smugglers would want him around)

Me too! I never liked how he was "forced" as a companion on my BH (who never left a mark alive, at least not a mark that she was supposed to kill) and neve liked his attitude, but he grew on me to the point I actually felt he was a friend to my BH.

Yeah, unfortunately we have too many edgelords, nihilist-wannabe players (I mean, I have my DS characters, and I love to roleplay but even them never go full DS since the choices are moronic at times.) I have resigned myself to not getting my Jedi Chiss.

Torian submissive? Riiight... Anyway, my mando BH didn't like the "animal" comparison but agrees with Lana. The clans have no direction and are easily blinded by their bloodlust and desire for battle. Their culture is self-destructive, this is actually addressed by Canderous in KoTOR (still bitter about what happened to him).

Wait, I remember having this conversation with him, since when it has been bugged? (I'm asking because I wanted to replay the romance with a new BH)

This. I was really looking forward to the reunion with Torian since my BH is my main and he's my favourite romance., but while I enjoyed the interactions I felt they were... lacking. You get more conversations with Vette and Aric for example. Also, I wanted to see Akaavi. This chapter felt really short too, even shorter than the previous chapters.

It has been really interesting reading all of the responses here. Anyway, I have an easier time playing a LS or Neutral SI that hates the Empire and the Sith than a Warrior. While my Warrior do picks LS choices out of self interest, long term thinking regarding what's best for the Empire, pragmatism and a warped sense of honor, but she's not really one to go around kissing babies in the forehead or letting jedi alive. She's a Sith and a really pro-Empire as it stands (maybe with a few reformations, whatever makes the Empire stronger), so she's basically Lawful Evil.

It does certainly feels that way, even when I'm playing my Neutral/Ligth SI ans LS Consular. This story is not for them, or about them. It's even more obvious to me when I'm playing a Tech class.

Gameplay and Story segregation. But really, how did my Revan got a sex and personality change and then ended up with Bastilla? She didn't even like her in the first place. (Okay, you really made me laugh...)

Damn, hopefully it would be soon. My BH feels a bit lonely without him.

As much as I love Torian and Vector I have to agree with you here. Haven't romanced Theron before but he seems fine so far. Not exactly my favourite but I'd romance him rather than Corso-sexist-Riggs or Quinn.

I really miss those options, considering you can change your companions "combat role" it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring them back... Quinn would be the first one to go, of course, you don't betray a DS Sith, utterly fail and think you can keep on living. If I had my way I wouldn't even recruit Skadge, my BH has nothing in common with him.

What dr_mike linked, usually teenagers with no understanding of moral concepts that spout nonsense such as "There is no right and wrong, no good and evil. It's all perspective! We can't pass moral judgement! Shades of Graaaaay" and think they are being deep and meaningful. As a philosopher (granted, philosophy of science) major, they are my natural enemy

Confusing natural selection with Social Darwinism... I hope you're joking. Most modern philosophers disagree with you here. While there's plenty of debate on metaethics, we know ethics aren't arbitrary.

My thoughts exactly, or rather teenagers with not understanding of morality. Reading this thread since the start has been a constant facepalming after another. "Well, societies decide what's good and evil, so there is not good and evil! Normative moral relativism for the win!" "It's survival of the fittest, the natural state of things!" Nietzche himself would be appalled by all the nihilism in this thread. Let me play my Sith in peace instead of trying to justify it with naive morality and nihilism.

You haven't romanced Corso, have you? Now that guy is repellent. I actually like Vector, outside of the whole bug thing he's quite sweet. He has the type of personality I would go for in real life (diplomatic, smart). Torian is my favourite however. Now Corso... I can't deal with the guy and his jealousy issues or his chauvinism ("Hur, I know best than those silly women"), he ends up alone in my ship. Haven't tried the other romances so I can't comment on those, but Jorgan has good chemistry with my trooper... if only he wasn't a cat man.

He's such a chauvinist pos, I wish my Smuggler could get rid of him forever. His bio is actually creepy too. (I have this joke that she's relieved after losing him in KOtFE... she's finally free!)

Haha, I thought I was the only one who did this but really, my smuggler loathes Corso, the only thing they agree on is their hate for the Empire, and she's LS/neutral(ish). He's such a creepy, "nice guy" that thinks he's entitled to the smuggler attention, even going around saying how "she deserves better". My girl couldn't wait to get rid of him.

Wow. Well, this made the romance really awkward for me, since my Smuggler is 29-30 at the start. Also, where does it says that Torian is only 17? I'm curious, never heard of that one before. Edit: nevermind I just saw the link to the Encyclopaedia. Dammit, Torian is too damn young.