Jesus, talk about digging.

Yep, out of the 2 snipers who have applied, I decided you were the best choice because not only are you the top parsing DPS for the slingers and snipers, you also have the most experience in NiM content out of the people who have applied. If all it takes is for us to get a few pieces so you can mirror that slinger on this side and wait for a few days to get you leveled up to 55, I'm all for it. So while it would be nice to have you tank, we need a sniper DPS in the ops team first and foremost (Sorry Magnis, wasn't planning on taking you because you never gave me any links). And secondly, we need one who is top notch and capable of facerolling bosses. Also guys, I might just have Drunken sit down with all of you guys from DWBI so you can just get me a all in one message of when you guys are free for doing this kind of raiding. EDIT: I just got word from Madelene that they will be stepping down from the run, as Dark Hunters is planning on attempting DP NiM sometime before buff is gone. So right now, we're going to need 2 tanks instead of just one.

And what happens when you determine something like that, as in a 1.7 to a 1.5 second delay? Determining the problem rarely ever gives a solution in the same go. What advice do you give from there? Learn binds? Click faster? Hardly good advice in comparison to having the guy post a video of him going through his rotation on a dummy, where you can literally see everything in the process and easily tell the flaws with just a parse for the numerical values. You get a more in depth look into his UI, IE, how he is activating his abilities. Analyzing a parse in comparison to watching a video on how he is also utilizing his proc windows and other rotation kinks is also pretty meh in comparison. Better to get the big picture from the video and use a parse's log to pick up on the fine details if need be.

To be honest, there's a certain level where parse comparison really isn't a logical way of measuring your weaknesses. If you really want to know what you're doing wrong, upload a video of yourself dummy parsing and post it on the forums, asking for advice. Ultimately, your problem in not hitting a high enough number for DPS is likely in areas you may not understand (the ability action queue preference is so small of a change tbh). I'd be willing to wager the method of how you activate abilities, overall reflex speed, preplanned steps in how you activate said abilities, or clear hesitations/derps in the parse are the main reasons why you aren't going to be up at 3k. And the only way to tell if you are going through and activating your abilities in the most effective way possible is to upload a video so everyone can see, from your POV, how you DPS.

Alrighty gents, I have made my decision for the team and based on who applied, here is our current team: Tanks -Madelene, PT -OPEN DPS -Zuhara, Madness Sin -Lint'licker, Merc DPS -Gag's Marauder, all specs -Camel's Sniper, MM and Engineering Heals -Caveh, operative -Koltowinfrey's Merc I wanted to post this here first because in all reality, I'd like to address the lack of a second tank. I know you mentioned you can bring your Jug tank back Caveh if we need one for the run, but I'd like to first off ask: -What's your tanking experience for ops? -Are you confident in your ability to tank NiM DP? If so, I will probably pull in PerseausDCW to heal and you can tank. If not, then I also have a good chance of possibly securing a really good tank for this team, as a sin so we can get the best comp possible in there. So to those of you who are in this list, I'll be sending you an in game mail so we can at least start forming a schedule that all of us can meet. I know people here have multiple groups they run with and things can be tight, so I would like to also ask people to be ready to possibly drop a few runs for this group in order to make schedules work should the need arise. For scheduling, I put aside this week for the purpose of getting schedules arranged and forming the full team. I'd like us to begin farm runs for next week in HM DF and Nefra NiM in order to get people who still need a few pieces min maxed from legacy taken care of. We will spend the time up to July 10th working on gearing out(Possibly having to farm CZ NiM for people to get 186 offhands) along with running HM level content in order to get a feel and cohesion in the team before beginning our first run into NiM DP. Don't worry about posting your times in here, I'll be sending out a mail later today. Just start thinking about it until the mail comes

Lol. I will happily concede defeat to you, sir, for the usage of a TFS reference. Well played.

So after having a little success with gaining interest from the community with the Imperial Dream Team, I was wondering: Anyone interested in running NiM TFB and SV progression/clears? It's quite amazing how pretty much both of those ops have yet to see a clear on Imperial side, where people haven't even cleared past the third boss in either instance, let alone full clears or title achievements. In an effort to change that, I'd like to go ahead and just post this thread to see if anyone would actually be interested in making connections to other teams or forming some teams for runs in that kind of content. Personally, I'll have enough on my plate raiding wise should this NiM DP team kick off along with my own guild's progression, so I mostly wanted to try and see if anyone else would be interested in forming something for this type of content.

wtb team to farm for damage like teut. wish i could have it easy and fluff damage like you. beat my pre 2.8 ranked arena record noob. and plz, i seen dat 31k. you are in obroans noob. finally, come fight me irl, i'll deck you in the face. wanna see my shiny mask?

Name: Zuhara <Tomb of Sorrows> Screenshot Link: http://i60.tinypic.com/20a2p6w.jpg Record Broken: Most Damage in a Single WZ #2 Value: 1,774,202 Type of Match: Unranked 8v8 Date of SS taken: 6/22/14 Let's go bro. I bet you don't even tabdot.

wtb baddies to farm for DPS records

And at the risk of starting a war here, raid awareness and adaptability, the issues that people lack commonly as new PvErs, can easily be developed in the PvP WZs. Especially as a healer. Hit the WZ queue sometime, see if you can play against an enemy that is actually attempting to make your job impossible. It'll make you more diverse in your range of abilities, such as using your pull in "oh ****" moments for dumb DPS, how to utilize the overload heal more effectively, and prioritizing who gets heals based on what the enemy DPS is doing to your team of players.

List has been updated, will be making selections for the team tomorrow. Would really like someone to enter an assassin tank for the team that is confident in their abilities, please sign up guys!

Zuhara <Tomb of Sorrows> Madness Sin 1 Mil HP TTK: 4min 17.9 DPS: 3875

The problem with Tomb of Sorrows is that the most active night for ranked, Friday, also happens to be the same day our first tier team of progression raiders runs operations. So if there is another night we can run, that isn't Monday, Thursday, or Friday night for ranked PvP, that would be fantastic as we can probably get one or maybe even two teams out depending on schedule planning.

Gonna need some parses from you as well Cavy. Try to see if you can get into a HM run of DF or DP before the 22nd, my guild also may be putting a run for it together sometime this weekend if there aren't any Leftovers groups running that can take you. If not, I also have a backup plan, don't worry.

List has been updated, thanks for the parse links guys. Just want to make sure everyone can take a peak into what your potential as an ops players entails, and I want to make sure this selection of a team doesn't turn into a game of favorites. Also, I posted Gag's app based on the two parses he linked me on Enjin of his 3.7k DPS on NiM Grob'thok and ~3.6k on NiM Nefra. He won't be available until the 8th, and because the majority of the people will undoubtedly have July 4th plans, I figure this is a good time to go ahead and focus on the team being assembled for the content then. On the 22nd, I'll select the team and I'll be individually contacting you all through in game mail, to develop a schedule that works well for everyone. When we have a schedule, I would like us to use the time before July 10th to run things as a team and get any necessary gear pieces for people who need them.

Let me know before the 22nd if you can't though, thanks.

Why the **** are you posting records from that Jedi toon? EDIT: Name: Zuhara <Tomb of Sorrows> Class: Assassin Screenshot Link: http://i57.tinypic.com/10scin5.jpg Record Broken (Ex. DPS #2): Most Damage in a Single WZ #1 Value: 1,647,559 Type of Match: Unranked 8v8 Date of SS taken: 6/17/2014

Alright, well let me ask: are you planning on running any content before the 22nd? If so, and the content is either at or above HM DF full clear level, turn on your logs and get me a link to an uploaded parse. If not, then post a reply here and let me know. I have a backup plan in case that won't work.

Guys, I appreciate the enthusiasm and I know you guys are capable of likely hitting the numbers. But I really need TORParse links. Just go dig some logs up of boss fights you've done in the past and post one that you believe shows your skill here, so I can take a look at your potential as a DPS. Also Drunk, tell Gag to send me his parse info to my Enjin Profile, under Zuhara. It's the same as my in game name, and he can find it in a link here. Tanks just need to post tanking experience and a little testimony from other players to make it onto the application list, but I would really like tanking videos from you guys to get better insight. Based on the interest here, I see a good time to select players will be on June 22nd, and we will attempt to build a raid schedule to get into the thick of things by the reset Tuesday of the 24th. Ultimately, my goal is to have the team in NiM DP by July, but it may be a case where we need to farm a little bit of gear from NiM Nefra and some earpieces from Bestia in HM or even NiM if people are capable (My guild has a crafter who can make both DF relics, so provide mats or buy the ones off the GTN to take care of those). So forming the team this weekend may help give us a window for said gearing runs. But again, please get me some TORParse links guys. Really want to see how you do in ops in your role as either a healer or DPS.

List has been updated.

Burst only becomes neutralized whenever the damage is thrown onto a guarded target with taunts active. Problem with your strat actually comes into better play whenever the tanks and other teammates' switch focus to the Deception DPS. Personally, I considered the tank would need to be the only one hard swapping, since DPS will be struggling to counter act the pressure damage by quickly eliminating an enemy player to cripple the team, but either way: Pressure damage increase whenever tank or multiple targets converge on the healer, effectively grouping together to make a happy Madness assassin drop Death Field off CD and easy maintenance tab Dotting. Team placement has to be spread out to negate DF damage and force the Madness assassin to struggle with DoT maintenance, or pressure damage becomes even more potent. Not to mention, smart Deception burst on a healer target would be to place burst damage on healer already affected by pressure damage at the right moment, which taunts and CC abilities make it a foolish idea to place in the first few moments of the fight. Better to save burst, ruse enemy team into believing you're using burst on a healer in the first few moments, and save abilities such as Recklessness for a somewhat later notice to effectively crush a healer below 60-70% from pressure damage. Op heals is actually more of a sustained spec, they actually suck in regards to burst heals now that the Probe spam has been removed (Think of how HoTs are essentially, the opposite of DoTs. And then, imagine how many DoTs specs are actually burst. Hint: the heals work in the same way.). The reason why Op healing is strong isn't because it's bursty and sustained at the same time, but because it's mobile and has very easy maintenance sustain HPS. So against burst damage, Op healing actually is one of the worst healers to counterbalance that damage based on healing power alone. If anything, a Deception sin can lolburst a healer no problem as long as they are patient and smart enough to avoid wasting their 2 burst rotations at the worst times. Which, since everyone believes "opening burst" is the only type of burst damage in game, it creates a wonderful situation because people melt from ignorance of the enemy team's strat.

Too much work, would lose too much money focusing on PvP over more planets, more CM items, and more content. Better to finish the race with a limp than to go back to the start, catching your bearings, and put in a decent finish. Only thing they miss about that metaphor is that the person who restarts and plays it smart rather than trying to maintain the race is actually the one who succeeds.

The argument is specifically in regards to determining the difference between the hilts, the impact of said difference is an entirely different argument. So no, your dramatic over the top aspect thrown into your argument is, in fact, over the top and uncalled for. You making a response of "well if my point on differences isn't as dramatic as you claim, then yours isn't either!" is actually antagonistic by nature, since no one started the debate of "is it really that big of a difference?" until you did. Thus, trying to play defensive when you instigated the attack actually makes you the attacking party. As for your argument, I disagree. In fact, I'd be willing to argue that if you keep BiS tank PvE gear with set bonus for only the 4 set bonus armored gear (head, chest, boots, gloves, pants) and mixed it with Expertise pieces for everything else, you get much better damage mitigation capabilities in comparison to full PvP gear. Trade off in damage reduction is only for DPS really, tanks lose the opposite in damage increase. Where in all reality, 1500+ Expertise with 180 armorings and PvE set bonuses that grant powerful damage mitigation boosts >>>>>>> 2018 Expertise tank gear that boosts damage capabilities.

Immediately turning to more experience rather than debating the argument? Forgot that even on RP servers, you can have decent competition at times? GG, thanks for the win. You've made it clear that this is only a personal issue to you. I suggest you get your ego in check bud, you're going to lose a lot of rating against better players with an arrogance problem like that. Just hoping Legatus makes a retort on theological comparison of teams, since you seem to lack understanding on how this game works. And prove it by continuing to dodge the argument with epeen measuring.