Heya guys. Before we start I know they haven't completed the sniper changes regarding Orbital strike (nerfing it even more lolwut?) anyway; As a Sniper having no other large AoE attacks (Marksman) a part from Frag Grenade which is still "barely usable" the nerf was a huge blow to clearing mobs and single target damage. I have no problem with them taking it out of the single target rotation but when you take it out of it's AoE use in the process then we have a problem. Yes we all should still cast it on adds as really we don't have anything better to do DPS wise. Before the nerf I was getting consistent 5-8k crits every time for 4 ticks which well, is a lot of damage. Say it crit for 6k for the 4 ticks thats a good 24k damage per add. As you can see it was kind of overpowered but now...At best 2.5k per add for 3 ticks which would do about 7500 damage total. This is just not acceptable. It's a good 68.75% damage decrease. What about mercs Death from Above when will that be deemed OP? Sorry i'm ranting now but back on track. I have came up with a few suggestions on how to fix the AoE damage for Orbital. 1.) Have some sort of damage increase if it hits more than 1 mob. Like "If more than 1 target is hit increase damage by 45% for the last 2 ticks e.g First tick 5 targets for 2500 damage. Next tick hits for [(2500/100*45)+2500]=3580 damage. Last tick hits for [(3580/100*45)+3580]=5191 damage. This for me would be ideal. Solves single target and deals with AoE to the same damage or just less than death from above. Instead of hitting 5 targets for 2.5k per tick [(2500x5x3)]=37500 damage we would be getting [(2500x5+3580x5+5191x5)]= 56355 total damage. A decent death from above would do about [12500x5]=62500 damage in this case which i would be happy with the orbital damage As it can hit more targets but deals less damage. PS if any of the math is wrong i'll correct it's 05:30am and i have nothing better to do 2.) It could maybe but a debuff on all things hit by the first tick that will increase damage on the second and third tick. Say you hit pack A with the full amount of ticks and only hit pack B with tick 2 & 3. Pack A would take increased damage from ticks 2 & 3 while pack B takes increased damage from tick 3. 3.) It's really nothing special but a base damage increase. What do you guys think should happen?

Mate! IT'S ON!!!!

This change is actually HUUUUGE! Think about all the mechanics you can cheese with this. Snipers already could cheese pretty hard with the roll and entrench but with this it's kind of great haha. But I really think the Combat team should rethink the Orbital changes for Marksman. As they said they'd like to have it in the Engineering tree but in it's current state it's just really bad. Maybe have some sort of damage multiplier if it hits more than 2 targets like x1.5 or x2 as it's really bad to use even for AoE or a filler. What about Death from above it's instantly castable and does way more damage, is that not "overpowered"?

Please Marksman, Y u so difficult now :S Nearly in at the top 5, Getting there

Everyone i've talked to and ran the FP with on the whole of the red eclipse server has had the same problem every time. Bioware please fix-erinioh !

100% agree Barmy! When I played Merc healing I really enjoyed the difficulty of it at the time, Sorc and Operative are kinda of easy and I think they are trying to appeal to those crowds by dulling down the difficulty of the Merc healer. Like you said KS shouldn't feel like the Operative's probes. Also didn't you get the highest EHPS on Hateful ?

Haha

Thraxara -Sniper - Marksman - 36/4/6 - 4'29.892s -3717.84 http://www.torparse.com/a/558323/6/0/Overview AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/59df7fa7-17ed-4d7f-a29e-48beac857d91 Done this on the PTS I think you've already saw it Falver from Paowee's PTS post. The one with completely stupid crit

I'm not on the leaderboards? Ah it doesn't matter

Im pretty sure it'll be 16man nightmare again

Bioware can you please respond to this, When can we expect the PTS Nightmare DF/DP since you have released the date for the actual release?

Falver will you be resetting the sniper/slinger leader boards once the nerf is on live? (If you have already answered this sorry to ask again)

I think if i perfect the rotaion and get some lucky crits i could maybe grab the number 4-2 spot Good to know Marksman's still up there

Thraxara - Sniper - Marksman - 36/4/6 - 4m 23.491s -3812.16 Log Link: http://www.torparse.com/a/554465/1/0/Overview AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/59df7fa7-17ed-4d7f-a29e-48beac857d91 With Armour buff and 1 mill HP modifier. If someone could work out the TTK for me that would be great it's currently 12:48 and i must get to bed :3 Also where are all you Marksman snipers at? Were you consumed by Hybrids ?

Yeah Fuyri from Suckafish Fuyri raids more or less every week with us he created a new character on TRE hes still with Sucka just his timezone matches ours so he raids Also Maull somtimes ^^

Heya Here is quite a nice parse from tonight's 16man. Fuyri was owning in madness spec on some bosses, But we all know he was haxing Dread Master Tyrans Thraxara - Sniper - Marksman - Drop it Like it's Hoth - 3534.13 http://www.torparse.com/a/533673/22/0/Overview

Fair enough if you don't believe it be my guest. Doesn't really bother me too much. It's the OP's decision whether it's "acceptable" or not. Can't argue with that

Please guys, The parse is not fake, can give you my word. If you want to declare it as fake be my guest but i can assure you it was not edited in anyway a part from cropping the end which is "legal". I'm an honest guy just providing the deeps Trust me it's the only time I've saw myself crit that high before on something that doesn't have a damage buff but if you want to dismiss it as fake it doesn't bother me. In an ops I've crit 14k before on Olok in S&V on him not the droids with the buff. Just thought i'd share my score, Also I do have Best in slot gear

Hehe, We do it as we can gear people up faster on 16man it's more efficient Still an 8 man progression though

Thraxara - Sniper - Marksman - 36/4/6 - 3722.61 (5m 50.692s) Log link: http://www.torparse.com/a/520907/time/1386951078/1386951429/0/Overview AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/59df7fa7-17ed-4d7f-a29e-48beac857d91 DEFAULT DUMMY (Forgot to get the other one :L)

Dread Master Tyrans Thraxara - Sniper - Marksman - Drop it Like it's Hoth - 3406 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/511838/30/0/Overview

Dread Master Tyrans Thraxara - Sniper - Marksman - Drop it Like it's Hoth - 3406 DPS

Taking the fight to the Dread Masters.... http://i.imgur.com/uv7R5Ah.jpg

Thraxara, 55 Marksman Sniper 364/6 3208.7 DPS 75-78 Level gear

How can you ensure that the give-away is fair?