If there is one thing you do, could you PLEASE change the crafting materials from the now useless ones to level 450 materials. Running a close second to that, could you please allow us to sell items we don't want (ie. the hundreds of more common speeders) to a vendor for the 25k it says they are worth? That's all.

I feel the same way about my balance shadow which I enjoyed so much for the last year or so. It felt so good keeping up with everyone on one of the more complicated specs in the game, now its on par with complexity with some of the others but not keeping up dps wise :-( So I levelled up my slinger and now am enjoying the total domination that provides, CB-TS-AS-TS-SoS-TS-CB-CB-TS-AS-TS haha. Gotta love the new trickshot proc! Actually now that I think about it, the gunslinger has a buff under 30% also now! I though that was meant to be the shadows saving grace! The slingers can go QD-TS-AS-TS-SoS-TS and by then QD should be back up, you can almost constantly skip double charged burst under 30%. Point is, I used to have this much fun on my shadow until about 2 weeks ago. I have even started tanking with him now :-(

High burst yes, highest burst, I would disagree. Marksmanship Gunslinger would be taking that title, especiallly now with the energy use improved substantially. I've played as a dps shadow for a long time now as my main, and only since 2.0 have I considered becoming a tank. The dps is viable yes, but it does need some attention to bring it back up to where it was.

ACTUALLY, you're both incorrect. I distinctly remember it saying you get early access if you purchase before a certain date (7th Jan?). I remember having discussions with my guild members and reminding them of this before that date. Basically what you guys are whinging about is that after this date, the preorder did not state that you do not get early access. That is because you shouldn't need to advise people of everything they don't get with something. They advertised perfectly correctly and YOU are the one who assumed you got something you didn't. Preorder does not equal early access. For example, when I buy a car, they do not need to advertise that will not also receive a horse. Now excuse me, I have another level toon to level to 55 on Makeb.

It's funny how people still don't seem to understand this. Pre 2.0, a well played shadow/assassin could keep up with 99% of players in a raid dps situation if not beat them due to raid wide buffs (armor debuff, inspiration etc.) and being able to use fight mechanics to your advantage, ie. ranged pre-dots before a burn phase, spinning strike <30%. Of course on a dummy they didn't keep up because they don't have any of these things available. Now let's all play 2.0 and test/parse/raid until we find out the real situation of our dps. Whether we are only good below 30% or not, it's probably not going to matter in the long run anyway. (now if only they increased phase walk to unlimited distance! )

Don't worry everyone I found out the tricks to the new rotation: Opener: 1. Walk in stealth into ops boss area, preferably behind a pole or other line of sight object, and make sure boss is targetted. 2. When fight begins, press force cloak to drop out of combat to protect your dps scores. 3. Sit down toon down in your safe place. 4. Go get a coffee. Sustained: 5. Watch and call out strategies to fellow raid members 6. Keep an eye on that boss health. 7. at 40%, stand up and get into position near boss. 8. at 31% apply dots. 9. at 30%, you actually become an effective dps, with increases to hits due to 30% limit and spinning strike. 10. Nuke boss. 11. High five everyone on a job well done and be happy with your dps being on par with some of the other members.

Link us to a torparse log. That way we might see if you are hitting something else/ the wrong dummy or something like that. Are you on your ship?

I've tested this external DoT buff consumption on the dummies (but not 2.0 yet) with members of my raid team, the only ones who consume your force suppression stacks are other consulars using DoTs. Not an issue for me as the only dps consular in the raid (got a sage healer to test it with some dots and they consumed it) but other classes dots had no effect on the stacks. But anyways, everything is changing tomorrow so I guess we'll see how we balance shadows go...and if it's bad all convert ourselves to tanks :-(

Well some people need to lighten up. Well done BW, nothing quite like a bit of tomfoolery to lighten things up ahead of the big release day coming up :-) (now I'm actually picturing a Hutt throwing someone off it's back because it feels like it).

All we can say is at the current iteration of 2.0, I might be changing from the UNbalanced tree to tanking full time :-( Also appears I will be joining some of you on the Harbinger in the near future also.

I love the idea. Wish I could be here that day to support it and join in, (unfortunately I will be away). SIGN THE PETITION TO SAVE APAC

Ok, I think this whole rant thread could be solved with one simple and HONEST answer. If continuing support for a single merged APAC server is not financially plausible, just tell us that is why this is happening. Don't beat around the bush and tell us something you think we want to hear. If the reason really is because it will provide the best playing experience for us all, then listen carefully to us when we tell you this is not true. The logical thing to do in the event that it is financially plausible to run a single APAC server would be to merge the 3 servers together and then if that still didn't solve all the issues to then transfer everyone to whichever server they wish after giving it a decent amount of time to work. Also, a little bit of advertising in Australia at all wouldn't hurt in the slightest. I have yet to see an ad for it over here apart from online due to google ads recognising my cookies.

Just to put to rest the argument that the petition is being signed by many outside of APAC, currently at 330 sigs, >95% are from APAC. Also, if you think 330 sigs isn't that many, be aware that is in 24 hours, where the number dries up when people go to bed for 12am to 9am. During waking hours the sigs/hour rises steadily increases until late evening. At the current rate, it will be over 500 by the time I log off the game tonight. SAVE THE APAC SERVER AND MERGE INTO 1 PETITION

Can't help but notice Elysiah, you post a similar post to this every few pages. We have 300 people who disagree with you so far and this is increasing steadily during hours APAC is actually awake. What factual numbers do you have to back up your pessimistic trolling? SIGN THE PETITION TO KEEP A LOCAL MERGED SERVER IN APAC

Exactly, merging the servers will take very little away from the overall experience. RPers in a separate channel, pvp already has one. I can't see why this didn't happen months ago. PETITION: KEEP APAC SERVERS FOR SW:TOR AVAILABLE AND MERGE THEM INTO 1

But remember we have WA players who already have minimum 50ms pings to the East Coast, then factor in the extra journey (routing will be via east coast Australia for sure) to the US, they will be getting up towards the 500ms range. In a game that has 1s channelled casts that require interrupts, that is going to require them to use the force to predict the upcoming interrupt and respond preemptively. KEEP APAC SERVERS FOR SW:TOR AVAILABLE AND MERGE THEM INTO 1

I believe you are speak for a small minority of people on our servers, however, unlike you, I won't state my opinion as fact. That is the reason for the petition. A petition, whilst not as clear to point out a preferred solution as a survey, is quicker, and easier to implement. If a large enough portion of the available community signs the said petition, it becomes statistically significant to the point of being indisputable. If there is a lack of numbers signing it, it will be insignificant. Let me just say, this one is currently looking like it will be in the significant category. KEEP APAC SERVERS FOR SW:TOR AVAILABLE AND MERGE THEM INTO 1

Noted, edited that word ;-)

You guys reply sooo quickly. I wrote a post a few pages back with the following petition for merging the APAC servers into 1 local APAC server. Get on board if you please, the signatures are already starting to pile up. Pass the word around to your guildies and friends. PETITION TO MERGE 3 APAC SERVERS INTO 1 LOCAL APAC SERVER

So, not sure if this is allowed, but I did notice that as long as it is not for profit or abusive a certain other survey was allowed on these forums recently. So here is a PETITION TO KEEP THE LOCAL APAC SERVERS AND MERGE THEM INTO ONE. Sign it if you agree and pass it on to your guildies/friends etc. At least we may get some idea of the numbers for this solution. PETITION FOR MERGER OF 3 APAC SERVERS INTO 1 (On a similar note, how hard would it be for BW to include a survey in game upon everyones next log in where they just have to click their favourite option for server merges? Sounds pretty simple)

I'm having the same issue. I can get to the vessel but the entrance is red and says im ineligible. UPDATE: I read the previous post, lets you reset if you can stand infront of the red door. thanks for help.

If you want a challenge and versatility, roll a shadow dps. If you want to be at all competitive in raids don't use infiltration, (2.0 may change this), use balance. Infil is pretty good in PvP though, where shadows are very useful.

So yet again this thread is paying dividends, just broke 1900 for the first time: 1904 DPS After 2 weeks of lower than normal dps I realised I had dropped my set bonus (argh), and got that back along with my hazmat implants and earpiece. Now I just need 4 DG armorings and 6 Mods/Enhancements upgraded and I'll be full 63. Probably not gunna happen prior to 2.0 :-( Bring on 2k next.

I'm sorry I started a bit of angst towards you there Vaduhh. That was not my intention. Just wanted to emphasise we'd like to see some parses and it probably came out a bit angrier then intended. As for the upcoming changes, I'm currently very disappointed with our 'buff' and the fact we don't really get a clear dps increasing talent (at least on the level of some others, sure it will go up but not in line with other classes). Seems we will be destined to fall further behind sents, etc. That being said, I shall wait with anticipation to see what happens to us.

Well it's all well and good coming on here and saying that, but this thread is full of people providing constructive comments and not just gloating. We also don't have much respect for people who don't post logs after making claims as to there dps, as I could just as easily say in my tanking stance I've been pulilng 2300dps for 6months in tionese gear. Oh but I don't both with logs. If you don't bother with logs, then how do we know your dps is correct? That being said, if you do post a log of that dps it would be very useful to all of us here and we would most likely respect you greatly.