Hi, Finally back after a 2 year Heitus, seems like Balance Shadow DPS has changed somewhat. I've been looking for and reading threads here and there, but no definite numbers so perhaps some of you can help. Basically, I want crit %, surge %, and power #'s that an end game pve Balance Shadow is aiming for. I've even reviewed my old profile in my signature and it seems like I was rocking 35% crit and 76% surge, but low power numbers. Though it was extremely good for me back then when I was in <Methodical>, I'm not sure if the same applies now. Please help. Ty. -Adrenalynn

some are, not necessarily all. might condense it back down to just 1 group. but yeah, still looking for a Shadow tank.

LOL ikr!

REPUBLIC: <two inches buffed> 5/5 tfb hm guild L2Recruit 1 Competent Shadow Tank our Shadow MT who helped us progress and get server first clear for hm tfb is now quitting since the game's too easy and we'd like a competent Shadow tank to replace him. you don't need to have cleared hm tfb, as long as you're a smart tank who understands boss mechanics, know your class, know when to taunt (VIP here!), and is smart about staggering defensive cooldowns, if so we would love to accommodate you. we currently have 3 groups that consistently clear hm tfb in less than 3 hrs. we're a guild of 40ish, we get in, we get sh*t done, get loot, easy peezy. sorry we're not interested in a guardian or vanguard, we have plenty; only shadows. REQUIREMENT: 1. be able to raid Tues @ 6pm-9pm PST 2. competent Shadow who knows how to taunt (know your class in & out) 3. not sensitive bc we f*ck around a lot and talk mad sh*t on each other, lol pst here or in game: Adrenalynn / Lela-starr, Bereezy, Game-over

great start. and wiggler is right, actually crit is desired as balance spec. i too sit around 38+% crit buffed. at one point i thought the same as you and did try to reduce my crit to 35% buffed and put the rest into power but when i parsed on the ops dummy, it seemed that my dps dropped. i think atm, i sit at 900ish power with 2200 wp and 38+% crit buffed. you can check my armory link in my signature just to get a sense of what you're trying to aim for, thought it's all 63 mods atm. but so far you're headed in the right direction, keep it up!

grats on that!

ty for the response. ill try to find that matching one in my gtm, but right now. i want those pistols bc of the "star wars" laser sounds from flashy etc. do those 2 flashpoint pistols have that "star wars'y" sound?

anyone know of a matching pistol to FLASHY, the pistol from corso? tyvm. http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/angelwuzzie/SWTOR/?action=view&current=gun09.jpg

gj diabolic. also good to see there's still a strong 16m on either side, gj working as intended, im jelly. wish my main guild methodical was still up and running a 16m.

grats everyone. /cheers

Thx I bet you're dying. Too bad BC you guys were the one of the few that were racing vs us. btw, no biggie but can you update our progress in our guild description as well as remove the " <> " brackets around our guild name.

<two inches buffed> just cleared HM TFB on Sat. 29 @ 4:41pm http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9576/screenshot2012092916424.jpg

<two inches buffed> just downed hm kephess @ fri sept. 28, @ 6:47pm pst.

<two inches buffed> downed operator ix tonight, onto kephess

<two inches buffed> just downed operator ix, onto kephess

<two inches buffed> pub side, got hm writhing and dread down tonight, operator ix tomorrow as well.

can you post a link to your build? ty.

i say just get 2x battlemaster power relics. or if you cant get those, 2x champion power relics should suffice if you're at the columi level. (ideally you want 2x war hero power relics)

mentioned here. gl. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=503640

forgot to mention in the other thread, one setting for my SC is "light movement," not "patchwerk." how much does your dps increase by with project in your rotation and where do you fit it in your rotation? have you tried inputting the mk3 earpiece? i think its force healer mk3, not sure? but its supposed to have better stats than the mk1, but ive yet to see one drop. -adrenalynn

PRIORITY DPS ROTATION: 1.Spinning Strike (at <30% hp) 2.FiB (w/e off cd) 3.Mind Crush (only w/ proc: a purple icon on buff bar) 4.Shadow Strike (w/ proc: a green icon on buff bar) 5.Force Breach (upon expiration or close to ending: red icon on boss debuff bar) 6.Sever Force (upon expiration or close to ending: green icon on boss debuff bar) 7.Double Strike (filler everytime when everything else is on CD) 8.Saber Strike (only if out of force) I'm glad to hear you stayed true to Infiltration, wish i could have stayed but numbers dont lie ;/ Perhaps you can link your rotation as I may be missing something bc the last time I tried infiltration, I was at most 1200dps live, 1500 on an ops test dummy. And a link to a combat parse log would very much be appreciated. Iono what to believe now, my guildies swear by the 2x war hero power relics that it gives a 1% increase in DPS, but you claim otherwise lol. I personally use 2x war hero power relics though. Wow, project now is viable? I'd like to see some combat parse logs for this, also, where do you fit it into the rotation then? As far as my settings go, its pretty much stock settings. Gearwise, its almost identical with the exception of the 2 best/wrist armorings AND you seem to have 1 extra crit mod or enh somewhere over a power one. Please get back to me bc I'd like to see this project addition. But I have a friend that also runs with his SC, and my profile seems to give me a lower dps output than his, though he is not all BiS as my char (minus the 2 armorings), so go figure. Hmm, then again, live combat is totally diff from simulation combat, so these values are kinda arbitrary from SC, combat logs tell it all.

i'm glad my pvp idol is considering pve and i'm more than happy to give my input as you've helped me tons in pvp! i have end game, BiS (minus 1 earpiece that won't drop), min/max gear and stats according to Simulation Craft (i say that bc most people say certain stats are supposed to be certain values, eg. crit 35%, accy 98%) armory link shows it all. http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/940f86d0-899f-47f7-8862-ea19e2fae117 on a 5min ops test dummy, i average 1700dps. live, i do about 1300dps. i rock 2x power war hero relics. (melee + all class buffs) power: 880 crit: 37.94% surge: 75.82% accy: 99.89% wp: 1999 combat parse for a hm ec 16 http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/combatlog/29430976-7798-41fe-b3c1-ed8abf549710/overview#d=0,f=40,b=1 The Bastion Adrenalynn <Methodical>

Take it from me and many others who I've preached to, balance is farrrrrrrr superior to infiltration. I love infiltration....that was till I finally budged and gave in to learn balance, now I won't go back no matter how flashy and cool it looks, the rotation feels a lot smoother too. GL infiltration, i can push about 1400dps on a dummy balance, i can push about 1700dps on a dummy http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/940f86d0-899f-47f7-8862-ea19e2fae117

is Double strike your filler SHIN? i find myself not double striking enough bc i feel i rather conserve my force for big hitting abilities like FiB and Project. do you recommend i double strike more?

heres another combat parse from my 16m hm ec run last night. no sents in raid though ;/ http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/combatlog/29430976-7798-41fe-b3c1-ed8abf549710/overview#d=0,f=40,b=1