Ravage doesn't proc unstoppable force charge does. Its a lot easier to see on Juggs than Guardians tho. It's stupid. As for ravage, they get a root to it. Also I don't think Juggs need a nerf though I do agree the ED needs to been 10 secs vice 30. In a competitive match it would make much difference tho.

Lol there is like maybe 2/3 people from BOSS that is good. Most of GOML is good tho but they don't just let anyone in. The Bastion is pretty even tho just depends on time of day.

Well 1 in 8. The huttball a share a chance.

Lol I was just highlighting how stupid it was.

Whatever you say. Agree to disagree.

Also, this is poor matchmaking and not a reason for healing nerfs.

It has been happening longer than you guys think with operatives/scoundrels root/roll bug. Now it's happening to everyone. They still can't figure it out cause there is no set cause of it. Though I think this new glitch with everyone may just be ppl reviving to medcenter too fast. I know I have done it Andy char does another "falling to the floor dead" animation and I can't move during that. Best fix for this is just wait a sec or two for the server to recognize that you have died before you respawn.

I just don't. Like how I don't understand why he doesn't like voidstar. To each is his own.

That is what I was getting at. Plus carnage does fine. You have to play smart. Let the veng juggs jump in first. The enemy will waste cc and then jump in for the kill. He'll a buddy of mine has always been a veng jugg and he will jump in and force choke so I can get my opener off. Then there is anni. Best at wearing down those tanks will others beat down the guarded target. All in all maras are still amazing if you know what you're doing. But don't get me wrong it is annoying *** hell how often I can't get the rotation off as a melee mara. But that is any class really under fire. You are just more under fire as melee cause you are in their face.

Lol Carnage mara's with unstoppable. Tho I would love it for my mara it would completely be op. Carnage opener is about 4 sec and will kill most classes in that 4 sec.

I don't quit, but I don't like huttball. I hope we can choose.

2 + set bonus + electric amush = 4 not 3.

No way voidstar is the best. It's just a lot of people don't wanna keep eyes on the doors.

Besides ED is usually the "oh ****" button and by the time you even realized they popped it it's too late. not that big of a deal. in a truly competitive pvp match the DCD will only make you last a few more seconds. People need to stop judging skills/classes based off those few unbalanced matches. As for stealth no running away us it to use spike and regain recklessness.

This exactly.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever read in my entire life. On a side note, shouldn't deception Assassins be getting 4 charges of recklessness do to set bonus and the skill tree?

OMG This! And, if I'm not mistaken, damage taken through a guard by the tank, bypasses all his defensives so he takes more damage then he normally would.

Weird cuz all weekend I got nothing but Novare and Civil War with 1 Voidstar...

How about this. Instead of making stupid suggestions like nerfing guard, how about you have some skill and separate the tank from the guarded target. Trust me this works. On another not... As a healer there is nothing more annoying that a dumb tank that throws up his guard the runs away to go DPS... dude seriously... Like Elrithis said, your job is not to dps but "Control" the enemy that is attacking your guarded target. As a healer, if the tank runs in the fray to dps just to maintain guard the healer has to run in the fray...

Or you are the healer and a good flashbang is useless because those good ol Lethality jerk offs are doing their darnedness to keep those dots up on everyone. And they think they are actually contributing to the PVP efforts. lol

Seems some of you are forgetting. Juggs get three life bars. EP then medpack and bam full health. Then again juggs have good sustain damage but no burst so it's not so bad. They need to survive longer to get damage output like mara's. Plus I think the name says it all. JUGGERNAUT.

Don't forget huttball. Tank guarding tank is nice.

Dps/healing balance is fine. When a skilled dps is on me, I may not exactly die but I am no longer healing the party. With that much pressure from a dps my team can still go down. Of course I always get a good laugh on unskilled dps'rs on me, more of an annoyance really.

I can tell you ranked is a joke on the bastion. It is pretty much dead and those that do are mostly people in half conq half part gear so wth. As my main is a healer I'm pretty much screwed.