Pandamonium still has 70+ active raiders committed to raid teams, with new MMOs coming out in the next few months its quite possible some spots will be open for those needing a new guild, but even if you don't want to commit to a team, there's open guild runs on other nights (usually twice a week for different content). There's also been more interest in PvP going into the next Ranked season, so check out the website and see if it might be the right fit for you!

We've had quite a few new players join recently and even some interest in starting an afternoon team for those of you that work evenings or live on the other side of the Atlantic! Keep those applications coming in!

There are currently 7 raid spots open across the 9 teams, as well as some fun guild activity events being planned.

10/10 in progression. Still spots open on various of the 9 raid teams. Also a 16 man alt/comms run clear on all SM content on Friday that gave 120+ ultimate comms in ~3 hours. And random SM groups being put together most nights. So plenty of raid options even if you aren't looking to join a team.

This thread's format is ugly. the rules are crap, and I don't really care to be a part of your revenge ploy against x-raided. Please remove my group from this thread.

With 8 groups, openings for spots come and go fairly often. People switch roles and what not. The best thing to do is join the guild, get to know some people and sub into raids whenever you get a chance and you'll find yourself in a team (or start a new one). There is currently a tank spot open but by the time you apply and get in, it could potentially be full. Usually teams recruit from within guild first so if you want a guaranteed spot before you join...probably not the right guild... There are chances to raid all the time though, just finished doing 16 man SaV on alts for fun. There's often people doing things night in and out on non-raid team characters to keep themselves busy.

Okay got it. You guys were unaware of my friendship/direct communication with the OP (how would you be aware of it though), so my reply made you mad cause you thought I was was just some random douche. However, this was not the case. I found out that the last update the OP was going to make was the Revenant kills and then close the thread, and then got involved on the behalf of a very busy friend.

Still got the order wrong, but I can see that you don't believe things that you haven't had proven to you. Thread was dead before anyone fired back (I recieved a text about it before noon today) it was dead with those 3 posts (and related PMs) saying to give hmd credit without showing the full team being guild tagged (which has been an expectation of new teams) and take away credit from X-Raided, from players outside of the guild. I don't know if it was any one of the three posts or PMs or maybe the combinaton of them... and I didnt ask what the PMs were about, I was just sad for Nox cause people have always made managing this thread not worth the hassle and it really wasn't fair imo. I can see why you would be upset with me, but I was just presenting the info I had received from Nox (who was too busy to reply at the time) ala the "That's not how it works" post. LIke I said in the past posts, I believe you guys in the kills, but it provides future scenarios or people not proving they have 8 guilded players. For example, one or two people could quit a guild and make a new one and take a picture of all the lockouts and make a picture like the ones you guys did. I know you guys didn't do that, but come on...you didn't even come close for what is expected of you to get credit, then also request other people's kills be taken away? Just came across as really petty and shows a lack of long term vision. YOu can pretend all you want that I played a role in this, but I know the truth, and so does the OP. I only got involved on behalf of a friend after the decision had been made to stop updating it. I don't like people making drama for my friend and have out of respect of that friendship stayed away from speaking up in past, once the thread was declared dead to me...no point in keeping my mouth shut.

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Thanks for backing up my point about achievements not being a good mark for proof. As for the rest of it, they're the ones that do care, they care enough that they want progression taken away from a former guild.

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It was done before I ever entered the thread, and that's the only reason I got involved. You were being bossy, just because you were being polite and saying please doesn't mean you weren't telling someone how to manage their own thread. You should probably know better then to assume you are the first group of 8 players to leave a guild. For example, Stay Thirsty went 3/4 NiM Denova before they split from Legion of Squirrels and the LoS dates stayed up. Just cause its personal between hmd and x-raided leaders doesn't mean the rules should be changed. There is nothing proving the kills other then 2 people's lockouts, and 1 of those 2 people stated that the kills were made before hmd was even made into a guild (confusing cause the other people said 6 kills were made before and 1 after but whatever).

There was more than just this thread, I talk to her quite a bit and she told me she was done with this updating this thread before I ever posted (and would update the Revenant stuff on her Word Doc to pass on to the next person). There are constant PMs from people to Nox arguing what should be counted and what should be taken down etc and the early posts regarding hmd vs x-raided \ was the straw that broke the back. I probably could have stayed out of it, because I really don't care what gets counted and what doesn't. The thing I did care about was Nox and the fact that people were once again bossing Nox around (yourself included) about what should and shouldn't be counted was frustrating to me.

Cause they were right?

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