You know what I find funny? People caring about the animations in an MMO.

I go 27/6/13: http://www.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/sith-assassin/11/?build=022132101121022002120200000000000312000000000000000000000000000003222100012000000000000000000000&ver=20 Do yourself a favor and go straight stalker/dps gear. You'll be able to tank and dps with that gear quite well. Get the survival gear after you've completed your dps set.

I use this and love it.

Meh. You see it happen then wait 5 minutes before requeing. Irritating but not like BW is going to do anything about it.

Easiest way to avoid getting steamrolled in WZs is to make friends with people who don't suck. Is it really that hard?

Well thread is coming from PO5 and Bastion seems to want to cause trouble. Here's a thought: Bastion should roll alts on PO5 and show how leet they are. Maybe even start their own thread of epic leetness (aka trolling).

That's actually THE spec run by some of my old guildies. It works and it works very well. Even one on one.

Yeah lol at FS being OP. B4 2.0 I'd have said insta-ww was a bit OP. Now nothing in the sin class gets that distinction. BW basically gutted the class and is forcing every serious rwz sin to go tank node guard.

Was reading the tooltip. Worth a look as that would be another fail on bioware's part. Assuming you're right (and you probably are), nice spec.

I think adding a few a stackable dot to SS might work.

Redid the math. Apparently I overshot the sweet spot and do indeed have too much crit atm and power does indeed seem to be the best stat bar expertise to re-allocate to. Curious. I'll post stats when I've got it in balance. Did finally balance after a lot of adjustment: wp: 2179 crit: 636 surge: 616 power: 668 fp: 1383 Ideally sub off surge/wp for crit/power in equal measure.

I'll redo the math today to see about crit vs. power. Don't PvE and don't seem to be having a problem with anything but healers.

IMO you've given up too much to get DF. You're missing Chair Shock and Wither for a very expensive (50 force) DF. Honestly just go full darkness if you're going to get out of combat spike and conspirator's cloak.

Nothing wrong with that spec - standard full darkness and prob the spec of choice for rated wzs atm. You *could* move assassin's mark for more utility (obfuscation) or survivability (Shroud of Darkness). Otherwise I'd say you're good to go.

PvP or PvE? Also its not any particular item so much as overall stats.

Near 0. Accuracy: 1% accuracy means 1/91 improvement from base or 1.1%+ dps. It gets less useful from there. 1% crit means 1.2%+ dps at my current stats. It doesn't hit 1.1% from DR until well outside the potential stats budgets of 2.0. Aka I'm stacking crit first and power/force power 2nd. If I have no choice wp > surge.

I've been stacking expertise > crit > power/force power > willpower > surge. Been ignoring accuracy/alacrity thusfar and haven't seen the benefit to stacking them.

Assuming surging charge I'd do this: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200rsMoZfrcRkGbRr0zZc.3 Assuming dark charge I'd do this: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200rsMozZfrcRkGMorzdZz.3

Was refering more specifically to stuff you take that you don't need to take toget something else. Aka Energize with dark charge and Saber Conduit / Electric Ambush with surging charge. You don't need to take those to get other stuff and you can't get the benefit from both at the same time. I am 100% sure there are some small changes that need to be made that are 'pareto optimal' to the spec.

You've got sustained dps, burst dps, survivability, healing, utility and cc to play with when balancing classes. Right now I don't think a sin wins in any of those categories save - possibly - survivability. Of course survivability is the absolute worst of the 5 dimensions for balancing so it needs to be a HUGE difference to mean squat. Unfortunately I'd say healers - just by virtue of healing themselves - have more effective survivability anyway.

I originally thought sins got more utility/cc than other classes to make up for their crap dps. Well now utility/cc is on par or worse than the average class. Fun times.

Something funny there. You have stuff specific to dark charge and surge/lightning charge. You can't have both. Some points are being wasted.

1.5% crit is about 1.2% more burst dps. You're wrong.

Aka nerf sins? Someone must be a sniper.

My only real issue is bioware went ahead and nerfed sin's utility pretty hard. That was the original big advantage sins had in pvp. Now why bring a sin over any other class? Full darkness node guard is THE only reason.