I only lost one. "Corvan" and I figured I would lose that one as it's pretty common. Replaced it with Corlan...it's not as though it's a big deal.

This thread hits on one of the main reasons I will be unsubbing. (My time expires on July 26th.) I bought CE mainly for the in-game store. I didn't give a crap about the statue and didn't even open it or the book that came with. I watched one of the dev videos and heard them promise to continue to keep updating the cosmetic 'fluff' in there regularly before the game even launched, so when I got to look in there and saw how sparse it was, I figured 'What the heck, they'll keep updating it.' so I threw down for 6 months. Now my time is almost over, and all they've added is a single 'pet' that costs more credits than most of my characters even have... This, combined with the dead servers, and the empty 'We're giving you more Soon' promises, has killed the game for me. I server transferred my characters so they'll hopefully be on a lively server if I ever come back, but I went and paid for a lifetime subscription for STO instead and haven't even played my characters over here since like 2 weeks ago. My hopes for this game were crushed, and I sure do feel like I wasted the money on CE. (I won't ask for a refund because the Khem Val armor customization from CE store got used multiple times by me....over like 20 characters...so at least it was somewhat useful...I didn't have to look at the nude ugly beast.)

Yeah, but most people know that a lot of F2P games are basically a test drive (trial) before they start asking for your cash... I got on Star Trek Online and after busting my way through the tutorial and visiting Sol system, I found where a lot of our player-base probably went... (Whole fleets of player ships flying around doing things. It was even phased/instanced up to 6 sections...I was on the #6 phase.) It was glorious just being able to see people in a game again...so much so that I lost 10 hours in it. I know where I'm going if things don't liven up over here... (Yeah, I saw the dev tracker and that they finally started responding to stuff, which gives them some points in my book, but I'm just wondering if it's too little/too late now to salvage the game.) Do you folks think a lot of those people that decided it wasn't worth crafting an alt who left the game are going to be willing to come back?

This is why I'm not re-rolling a new toon on a populated server and instead am downloading and trying a free trial to Star Trek Online...

I don't know if you folks have ventured over to G4TV, but they've been 'visiting' Dev offices and posting videos of it. They released one for Bioware's Austin offices, and it was very short and they seemed kinda stuffy, didn't show much, and seemed like they were being secretive and trying to hide things. I went and watched the one they did for Trion's Dev offices and it was fun, peppy, and lively. They showed them around a bunch, and introduced a bunch of people, and even cracked a few jokes here or there... After watching those, and seeing the way the Devs are acting on here, I am really seriously considering unsubbing, as I didn't pay for Collector's Edition + 6 months for a game that was going to just be run hard into the ground. I paid for a fun gaming experience that I was hoping would grow into a great game. My sub runs out July 26th (Free month must've finally been added to my account...) so they have until then to get their act together.

They don't talk about Barrens chat because it was nice...

After doing it like 5 times one day and failing multiple times, I gave up. Went back and did it again another day, and figured what the heck, I know it's that frigate that comes in right after you get out of the valley that blows it up...so I used my missile lock and aimed at the side of the valley where the frigate is supposed to be and it locked on THROUGH the side of the asteroid valley wall (They need to tweak that..you should be able to see it and it makes zero sense that you fire missiles through a solid wall of rock. Same with the space station one...you can fire through the station and hit something on the other side of it...)

Overall, I was happy with the game until I started to get to the mid-story planets and there was nobody there to group with... Now I'm just putting stuff back up on GTN every so often and wasting time while waiting for some kind of transfers/merges or whatever they are doing. I already played farther than I wanted to and missed some of the heroic content I wanted to see on a few planets, so I don't want to keep going until I can go back and knock them out and see the new planets group content... I'm curious how their metrics are measuring my logging in just for GTN and then logging off and going and playing Starcraft II... I also am not happy with how they are handling customer service on these forums. There was a guy that posted a 'HELP' type thread because he'd come up against a couple fights he couldn't get past, and instead of letting some of the players give him some helpful advice, they locked it down. (Which would've been another lost subscriber.) But I noticed it and private messaged the guy and ended up explaining some stuff he didn't understand about the game (He was brand new to MMOs), and might have kept one of their subscribers around for a little longer. This is not how you keep your subscribers around... Combine that with this behavior... http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4475137#edit4475137 ...and I'm starting to wonder what the heck is going on over at the Dev offices, since they are barely giving us any info. But, I'm a die-hard gamer and have seen lots of bad behavior, so I'm not scared off...YET. Hopefully they will turn everything around and I can get back to enjoying the game like I want to be...

The only early on orange customize-able armor for Jedi Consular that I've found remotely appealing was Jedi Initiate's Vestments/Lower Robe. (And apparently the schematics are semi rare, as I can't even find the headpiece schematic...and I've been looking for about a week and a half now on GTN and been asking around on my server.) But then, Jedi aren't supposed to be prideful, so looking for fancy gear seems anti-lore...

Somehow I doubt you've been on the receiving end of it, and are usually on the doing end. After dealing with a guild on WoW run by a 16-17 yr old girl who ran around inviting everyone she passed by, and dealing with a guild thief that kept stealing for a month before I was promoted high enough to kick him out/do anything about it (even with logs) and then having her go and invite his alts in as she saw them and have the thing repeat itself, I totally disagree with your viewpoint. Especially after the guy messaged me specifically and laughed about how many things he stole and re-sold on AH. Guild thief are scum, bottom of the bucket, and are part of the reason I won't join guilds unless I really get to know a few of the members...

That's part of why I mentioned Nar Shaddaa. That planet is supposed to be a flashy marketplace. And they already put up billboards and whatnot with 'alien' text on it, so what if they just swapped in real life advertisements that you were supposed to catch a glimpse of while you're flying on the taxi to somewhere..? Would that break the immersion too badly?

Or here's another idea for 'forced'...since we all have load screens, how about if they put in an advertisement there instead?

Just read an article over on G4TV suggesting one of the ideas Sony has come up with for advertising in games... http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/724150/sony-patents-interupting-game-ads/ ...and I was wondering what other people's opinions on forced in-game advertising is? My personal opinion is that if they did this to any game I was playing, I'd instantly quit, even if it was a favorite of mine. What are other people's opinions if they were to say...start putting up floating blimps in Nar Shaddaa with actual real life advertisements? Or sand crawlers out in the Dune Sea with advertisements emblazoned on the side like with buses? Just some ideas. Feel free to discuss your opinions and how you would respond.

I don't know if you've played the Republic side recently, but they went through and 'polished' a lot of those quests that require a certain guy to kill for completion (So instead of him sitting there, you hit some object and he spawns.). I noticed it when I made my new Jedi. Not to say it won't happen still, but they were working on things like that before this uproar apparently.

I played LOTRO for a paid year from like 1 1/2 months before it went F2P... I actually burnt myself out by doing all of the crafting guilds at once, so I didn't even get a character past I think level 42. I actually quit like 8-9 months in on my year and never went back. With the F2P microtransactions and the paid VIP member's getting a steady amount of Turbine Points to use, I spent a lot of my points on deals they had for that cross-character bank and the cross character wardrobe and multiple extra character slots and the expansions (But I never even got to see Mines of Moria...much less the expansion after it.) The scenery was great, but there was lots of things left to be desired for the rest of the game. (Like having to fight over kills for getting completion). Also, the Barrows was almost stupid...exploding poisonous worms that gas the whole room and kill everyone...or a zombie/skeleton necromancer guy that can stun-lock most of the 'fellowship' (group). The housing and the different holiday event items were fun for awhile, but it was poorly implemented and I doubt many people even visit the houses unless they are buying the next door one. Basically, the group content I've seen over here on SWTOR is much more intriguing and the VO stuff is great (Except when your character starts to repeat the same lines..) I'm really enjoying the crafting system and hunting down schematics...(Except for that whole augment system...I think they should just fold it into something else/get rid of it and change slicing so it actually has a decent chance to find something else other than credit boxes from boxes in the field since they've nerfed it so you basically break even/lose money from missions now.) If the servers would liven up and I was able to learn some of the FP's and more of the heroics and get to the endgame stuff, I'd probably have a few more opinions on this game, but overall, I quite enjoy it. I enjoyed both of these games to an extent, but each has their ups and their downs.