Merc, although sorc lightning spam is pretty retarded too but merc spamming is just brain-dead bull****

This kind of thing shouldn't be needed. I like the way you can tab/ shift tab between 2 people but general tabbing is a disaster. They need to just change it to tab nearest which is covered from you outwards in a cone.

What?

huh? Any of the cover options crouch/take cover/ cover etc etc None of them work when rooted. You can't take cover when rooted unless you trinket the root, but it's pointless because you get rooted or stunned a millisecond after. I don't get what you're saying re: never having a problem with this?

You won't have any issues in low level PvP my friend. People die before anyone knows what's happening. Alot of people also are still learning their char/ mapping out keybinds/ learning to use the skill they just got from dinging. 50 is the finished article and unfortunately for us our class isn't finished as of yet.

What that SC tells me is that your team got ***** whilst you ran around spamming dots and grenades? How does this SC show anything about gameplay/bug issues associated with a sniper? Obviously you're triumphant little message there as well further proves this SC is relevant and means something? Spamming grenades and breaking CC won't get you into any good rated teams rambo.

This is sadly true unless they change something. It will go the usual way that people will roll the classes who are effective at rated pvp. snipers are the least played class already, imagine what they will be like when people realise they suck at rated? It's not like people will flock to re-roll sniper if they get a slight buff, the immobile playstyle and lack of a glowstick waving about would prevent many from even thinking about it. These few people who love posting saying they are great at playing snipers and it's only bad players that think they have issues will be the very same ones left without a rated team or playing on an extremely crappy team with their pve guildies. Look forward to seeing you guys in the top 5 teams on the leaderboards.

To be fair we're your anti-class, so i can understand where you're coming from. I'd take your escape and damage reduction skills over our ones any day however.

Sorry what abilities can you utilize from a ledge specifically? Any range class can stand on a ledge and dps. In fact, they can do it much more smoothly and not suffer from bugs which don't allow placing cover in certain areas. If you're talking about being un-chargable this isn't utilizing anything, it's passive and I think that's a fair trade-off considering we've rooted ourselves and at times can't even dps properly due to that annoying bug. Cover is only useful in pve or against other snipers. So many times i've rolled up into cover and then have a sorc spam lightning on me or troopers missile spam me. It's only good if you're 1v1ing another sniper and since there's hardly any being played that doesn't happen too often.

**** Warning, long post. Don't read if you're in a hurry or have no attention span **** Ok so my sniper is my main. I enjoyed leveling my sniper alot, great storyline, good fun etc etc I only got this game to PvP. Anyone i know IRL or in my guild etc got this to PvP. PvE is repetitive and boring for me so how snipers perform in that is not my concern ( or hard to gauge anyway with no combat log etc) Low level PvP was fun, if over-zergy; i could 4 shot others and others could 4 shot me. Fair enough. However, now i'm properly PvPing i'm finding the sniper incredibly frustrating like many others. These are the main issues that need to be addressed fast, if BW don't see this then what did they design Snipers to be? Certainly not experts at holding nodes/areas. Hah! With Rated WZ's coming up Snipers are unanimously the worst class at the moment going into this change. 1. The main issue is really not being able to take cover when rooted. This just really feels like a bug to me as i can't really imagine someone designing the class and deciding this "felt" right during gameplay. I've searched for a dev post to clear this up but i've only found one explaining the green shield over players heads etc Is this intended? If so what an error. To people who haven't played sniper. I'll compare it to WoW as many people will be able to understand. Imagine you're a elemental shaman turret spec. A frost mage comes up to you and frost novas you in place. You have no trinket etc There's still tons of things you can do. As a sniper this small problem of being rooted means you cannot enter cover, and therefore cannot pop any major defensive cd or major damaging ability. You are standing there like a lemon taking damage. Root wears off, players at 50 with brains root you again = dead. Have the Devs at any point says this is working as intended? 2. I run with MM, i've tried other hybrid specs and also Leth, but i've found, as many others have, that your damage can be cancelled out with a simple cleanse and if that happens you've done no damage and you have no energy to do anything for a while again. Too annoying and there's no answer to this really currently. MM suffers the most from the white damage issue. Arpen is broken at the moment which makes things worse. As MM our only main attack which is yellow damage is EX Probe. SOS, ambush, sniper , Follow through and Takedown are all white. Why on earth is this the case? Our damage is tested by nearly every defense in the game. We a high up talent in the MM tree to make one of the above main skills yellow damage to give us a single target dps boost. Everyone says oh snipers do tons of damage, yes leth dot spammers and aoe grenade and OS spammers, which doesn't really do anything to killing important targets fast. 3. Lack of mobility renders us completely useless for alot of objective play. People say this is important in VS and HB but not in CW. In CW i don't know how many times my slow speed has effected enemies capping or me not reaching to cap in time or help out in a fight. But the main reason for this is because we have to work so hard to position properly make sure we keep moving around to rebuff and have decent LOS. When we sometimes get over-ran by the enemy and we need to escape we have absolutely nothing. We look like complete helpless idiots trying to run off waving our gun about at the ground, walking at snails pace. Just really un-satisfying to play. I don;t mind us having to self root to do damage. But at least give us even a 2min CD speed buff or maybe a teleport pad with similar concept as WOW warlock. THis would suit sniper set-up and think ahead play-style. But this will probably be brought in in an exp, which will be too late. It makes me laugh at what some players say to justify the obvious Sniper failings at PvP. I've heard on a few occassions " A snipers job is to focus down the squishy classes who are low health" I mean come on? Isn't that just anyone's job? A more mobile class can run around 2 shotting these classes and keep up with the pack. I keep hearing, don't try even shooting at a tank, leave that to classes with better dps, just harass the healer and dps a half health sorc with no bubble up, who's standing still for some reason in your LOS and not moving. Oh ok? Kill exceptionally crap players who wear light armour. Ok? How can you harass a healer, who's running around, constantly losing, then coming out and healing, then losing, running forward, weaving in and out of pillars. All the while you're moving your slow in combat *** up from cover, trundling up 10 metres, plonking down your clunky-*** screen, firing up an ambush and then get LOS'd and the fight moves on another 5metre. Ahhhh, fun times. Sorry for the long post but i'd love to hear from fellow snipers and if they agree/ disagree with this. I like the class and it's so close to being an enjoyable and fun class to play, but right now it feels clunky and broken. A really annoying point for me was in the dev tracker, where the dev advised against not using the rolling take cover option as it's unresponsive and just to use the less inspirational crouch instead?? That just leaves me speechless. Link: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3063092#edit3063092 I love a challenge and like to play a finesse class that takes thought at every opportunity but this one just isn't finished at the moment to fully provide a rewarding experience. A few tweaks and it would be there.

It's actually the no-life whining kids who moan about people getting gear. PvP should be skill based not who leads the more boring life and has more time to spend staring at a screen. What kind of spoilt idiot likes killing people who are severely weaker than him with ease? How is that rewarding? Also how is grinding your way to a title something to boast about? Woah, i spent 10 hours yesterday spamming aoe in huttball, whoo hoo. When rated wz's come out and your team is in the top 10 then that's something that is worth showing off. No one cares that you have no life and you think spending every hour of your day grinding gives you the right to one-shot new 50's. A person with a background in any decent pvp online games would welcome the gear change. I'm guessing the moaners are about 14 and don't know what real PvP is.