Whatchu talken bout I saw you today.

As far as ranked goes its kind of a circle. You see the imperials die and then their bodies fertilize the dirt and feed the vegetables. Then the vegetables are eaten by Tauntauns making them stronger. Then the Imperials look upon the majestic Tauntauns in envy and try to kill them only ending in their own demise. Thus we have the circle of ranked.

Wow those are some sick advanced tactics. You should check out Dragonnyt he does a lot of the same things but instead of attacking he just stays in stealth in between he nodes on novare. I will try and find a link to his channel. He is way more advanced than you are but keep practicing and you will get there.

Sheemie <------- Nachos

The answer is yes. However you will find both areas very dead with the occasional lost lobbie as there is no incentive for players to do open world pvp in this game.

Fixed It

/sign

The only way 4v4 could work is if they eliminated side nodes otherwise the maps are too large. However the concept of eliminating the sides nodes could work quite well for CW, and novare. Then in AH just have a mid fight and in void eliminate one set of doors.

I like the idea however you are not addressing the real issue and are going to end up flooding the: Hacking is out of control, Healers are OP, and the Any class but mine is OP and mine is broken threads. To address all of these threads at once BW needs to ban pugs from WZ.

Operative roll.

The reason people think healing is OP is that reg WZ are extremely unbalanced. The reason many people say it is a L2P issue is that in ranked pvp where you have similar skill level and proper team composition (2 tanks, 2 healers, and 4 Dps) the ballence is the best this game has seen so far. However in regular WZ you will hardly ever see 2 teams with a good composition and skill lvl ballence. While the op may be a very competent dps the problem lies in the other dps on his team. I will agree that operative heals have very easy reasorce management sorcs on the other hand do not. Also reasorce magment has less to do with duration of the fight and more to do with the amount of damage the team takes. If only one good dps is tunneling a healer and the other dps on the team are garbage the healer will have no problem keeping up the entire team. I sorc heal for our ranked team and if u check out my stream there are many times that I burn my resources and this makes the team and myself very vulnerable. Also not that just because operative healers have easy reasorce management does not mean they are invulnerable, if you force and oprative to use his roll he will easily burn all his resources. If healing was overpowered in ranked games no one would die or you would only need one healer.

Lukewarm Tauntauns are bringing there ranked team there's prob around 12 of us. Numbers are hard to say because it all depends on what format transfers come in (if you can bring your legacy) and how much it will be. If all goes well the Stanky Tauntauns might follow us as well.

Correction we were the kings of Hutball. We no longer find the strategies of fire pulls and ball pickups viable In 2.0 because we have forgotten how to do any of it. We are currently working on our new strategy where we let the opposing team bring the ball to us in our own end zone and try to kill him there to farm medals. We are still working out the bugs with this new strat but when we get it down you shall be the first to know.

From what I have heard the majority of pvp guilds are looking to transfer. On pub side Vegetable Medly, Top Gun, and a combination of Adroit, Goof Troop and others make teams. On imp side Krusty Krab regularly que, and ocasionally We Haz Cookies. This is only since 2.0 however I know a lot of old players are planing on returning when transfers happen from Squirtle Squad, and Acendancy. I will answer you question of who we are and who is the best on the Harbringer with the question "What is the internal temperature of a Tauntaun?". Our guild is the result of our main ranked team splitting from We Haz Cookies 4 months ago, and have dominated Harbringer Ranked Pvp ever since. We consist of about 16 member and regularly que week nights 7 pm ish server time. If you want to check us out I stream all our games however I only recently found out you have to save the vids on twitch so I only have games from this week http://www.twitch.tv/asheemie . We also all have 9 inch soft Dyuks.

I never thought I would say this but you would be more useful being "stealth in the end zone guy", or the "token pug spam caper".

The answer to this thread is L2P. Seriously learn how pvp mechanics work. If your force in balance crits for 8k a guarded sorc will take half that damage and a base sorc bubble absorbs 3k (might be more after 2.0 and spec) your force in balance will hit the sorc for 1500. This is without a taunt without jugg interested and buffed aoe taunt.

Nachos is correct it is terrible and RDJ was more entertaining when he was on drugs.

Nekron they never said they had close matches they just said that "they gave us all we could handle", such as this game (begin at 7min) http://www.twitch.tv/asheemie/b/400264769 . I think we could have handled a bit more.

Wow this thread is a nurf smash and roll qq from being the greatest I suck at pvp so it must be broken thread. The only major imbalance in this game is players skill lvl. 2.0 honestly has across all classes the closest balance this game has seen so far and the biggest problem is people judge class and role balance based on reg pvp where the biggest imbalance in regs is team compositions and players skill. Healing is not overpowered in this game, but now we have tons of players who are bad at this game and can't kill healers so bioware will end up nurfing healing into the ground again just like 1.2 because no one knows how to interrupt or focus fire a healer. If you are like the op and want more of a challenge they have created a way to enter wz's with only premade groups its called ranked wz. The problem with ranked wz's is that people don't like losing or dislike the realization that in actuality they are not that good at pvp and play one match against a skilled team, get stomped, never play again and don't get better. The problem with reg wz's is that you will face a team with 4+ healers or have 4+ chitty dps and cant kill anything this does not mean the game is broken.

Although I don't believe that many of these players are still broadcasting if anyone wants to watch some tauntauns stank up some ranked ill try to stream most of our matches http://www.twitch.tv/asheemie

Yeah I was talking about people that made the pact gotta make sure i'm real specific next to so we don't hurt your poor head... and im no historian so I could be false on this as well I was just trying to make a point that there can still be agreements made in warfare but hey you wouldn't know cause you stopped reading. Edit: I was thinking the Geneva convention not the one after WW1 and yes I was wrong for saying WW1

I will agree with you that double doesn't have any honor as he chooses to /spit on everyone he comes across but I still think he’s a great player. I believe that the play to win stagey is very much prevalent in this games I doubt that if ranked came out on release that we would be banning sorc healers because they would us a exploit to gain more healing than intended, and I would imagine that voidstar results would end with who had the assassin that was better at jumping the gap. We also saw these results on the PTS where ranked WZ's quickly became an arms race to stay competitive. When addressing the /stuck issue I think you are one of the few within our ranked that don't deny that this is a cheap tactic and more so than the ones previously mentioned. There is a difference between winning by playing to win and being the better team. If you duel someone in the game and you don't have biochem and they us medpacs and adrenals and you loss to there is no reason to deny that you lost the duel, however if you were able to win the duel if they did not use these advantages you would be the better player. I think that while some people may be satisfied by playing to win I believe that the most satisfying win it the ones you win without using exploits and win by being the better player. Personally I think wins that were obtained by having an unfair advantage do not feel like an achievement. While initially players may adopt the play to win method to become competitive most players within our high lvl pvp community strive to become the better team or better player. This requires them to win by not using stanky exploits. While this ideal seems difficult to accomplish with no good means to monitor pvp. I think that our community's response to this issues and guild leaders making stands to prohibit /stuck exemplifies this desire to become the better player and the better team. While I think that playing to win is a very valid theory about actions taken in video games I do not believe that it justifies the use of these exploits. My final point America, Freedom, and Vullesh.

Well asuna I have read your arguments and from what i understand you think double is a garbage player and i admit that everyone has a right to an opinion I feel you are very wrong with this key point in your argument. Secondly for this all is fair in love and war argument while it is arguable in RL situations all may be fair but in-moral tactics such as chemical warfare are no longer warranted in warfare and haven't been to the best of my knowledge used since WW1. I have to argue in our community of PVP their is and should be something to be said for having honor within a RWZ. Since invention of using /stuck was discovered by megasin and others a "dirty tactic" or strategy is arguably allowable, however currently is very uncommon as it is seen as the stanky way to win. I will say that it is justifiable to /stuck in a competitive field that has no respect for players within it or has no honor, however in our current ranked environment i find that the community of players have set a standard of respect and honor for each other and such dirty tactics that may be justified are not used unless the player is stanky. And back to your original argument I have seen Doubles epeen and it is way bigger than you think. To the main argument of /stuck as an exploit I believe that the teams ability to choose who on the opposing team dies and when they do it is the highest level stagey used by ranked teams. /stuck a game mechanic that is intended as a last resort to help a player who has become stuck takes this tactic away from the apposing team. I not do not believe that it needs to be argued whether /stuck is an exploit. it is as much of an exploit as sorcs being able to use procs for 2 different abilities or sins being able to jump the gap in voidstar these were both common to see in WZ's and were arguably allowable. the problem with /stuck is that while these exploits were fixed /stuck can not be fixed as people legitimately get stuck in wz. I hope bw addresses it by adding a time penalty to using in even 30 sec time penalty would be sufficient to reduce the lure of using it. it may be unfair to opfotm who constantly gets stuck on rocks in civil, but that his own fault for keyboard turning so who cares if he has to pay a time penalty. The reason /stuck is not honorable and should not be aloud in is that it takes away one of the most important strategy and tactic of a ranked team and the fact that it will not be removed unless a viable solution to people actually getting stuck is found. As to policing it it fairly easy to spot if you know what to look for. Can you guess who /stucked http://i49.tinypic.com/2mxy7c.jpg

Hmm I read all of your post and I see one flaw in your argument if /stuck is an exploite that make you better why doesnt the best PVP guild us it. I heard double o who had a 11" soft epeen never uses /stuck as an exploite and is still able to do well in WZ.

The only game that is pure objectives is hutball every other WZ in the game comes down to who can kill the other team faster. The team that can do this better wins the WZ. Also I have no idea who you are.