Force shroud lasts for 4 secs, so if you start seeing absorb just shoot reg shots or rail. Unless your a sorc then go melee him for 4 s or run lol. ( melee was a jk) And to the previous poster stating sorcs popularity, no doubt, but one smasher equals two sorcs an if hey are grouped they are all dead. And was mainly talking about 1v1 vs sorcs, so if all you DPS attacked 1 diff sorc, worst case, you would still wipe them. And pls don't tell me the classes I listed cant easy 1v1 a sorc. I love playing sorc Cept the fact they die easily or have to run and hide anytime they get attacked.

That all classes are considered op when you play them correctly. So quit whining about every class that whoops you. And that sorcs are in big trouble if their bubble gets nerfed. Which several previous posters said was inevitable. IMHO sorcs need a serious buff somehow.

Full madness sorcs die in 4-5 secs after their bubble pops, which is fast compared to lightning trees. If sorcs stun bubble does get nerfed, there will be no reason to play a sorc in any WZ. The heals are weaker and they can easily be knocked off their ground circle aoe heal and two shotted. So anyone who plays ranged , or smash knows that sorcs are the best targets for high crit numbers and damage. Currently sorcs are stupidly easy to kill from ranged, and if a stun bubble nerf comes they will be stupidly easy to kill from melee range. I can utterly destroy ANY sorc/ sage on every server with sniper,jugg,Mara,PT,assassin, and op. EVERYTIME. Not a boast just simple fact. Sorcs are the best targets in WZ because after their shield is down they die in secs and give you your best opportunity for epeen high bragging crits. I feel sad for anyone who plays this game with a sorc/sage. Because if I don't kill you in 5 secs I am simply farming your weak @ss for easy DPS numbers and can one shot you at anytime. For all you trolls that think you can Los me and run off , grab a medpack or wait till you get your health back up, I have killed two of your buddies restealthed, or waited for cool downs, and then can take your shield down and rape you when you finally get the courage to rejoin the fight. Also if your betting on your dots to do anything, I can clear them with an instant cast and all you have left is an easily interruptible lightning or lol lightning strike. So good luck to all those sorc/sage mains out there, best bet start your reroll now.

Thank you soo much for posting this, hilarious results.

Wow ! you guys are awful butthurt over getting rofl stomped in pre 50 WZs. Good job OCP on making such an impact on PVP. Hope it continues in 50 WZs. The emperor approves of the new vision for old Detroit. And Cyborgs FTW!

Totally agree P.S. fun thread

It is interesting that the imperials have more people and yet can't field one ranked team. I see the pubs group up and run half a guild with the other half from a different guild. Wonder why the imperials don't do this. Are there any good imperial PVP guilds ? Love to run with ya What do you pubs think, would you rather run all pubs or have fun crushing a pug imp team?

Without question Jung ma is a great server. But, there isn't any ranked matches. That's the main problem, all the pvprs want to run ranked and feel challenged. Whatever fixes that problem will be the best thing to happen to Jung ma.

Great post

Great response

Jung ma was a great choice initially. 1. Lots of players 2. You can run pvp 3. You can run pve 4. You can RP 5. AND BEST OF ALL YOU CAN RP AND PVP. Who the hell doesn't want their guild to be in roll and crush their enemies. The main point of SWTOR was to be an elite hero in the star wars universe and crush your enemies. So saying (he, us , and everyone suffering on Jung ma with no ranked pops EVER, ) should have known that bioware/ea would transfer everyone away and not send anyone to the server was not known . Good work suluu , For continuing to bring this issue up. We love The game, pvp, and still want to play. Albeit with ranked and RP/pvp. And to all you smartazz trolls out there, F off. We are trying to better the game while you are just sitting there annoying others. Your not going to get someone to say great job trolling, your so witty, can I be your friend. You just show how petty and insignificant you are and perhaps you like to be insignificant on a low pop server .

New to server. But had a double master precombat upgrade Sith. Loved SWG.

No one has Answered any of the questions asked. I would love to know the answers to these questions as well. It rough going from full 50 legacy and craftable everything to reroll on a server where you can actually get a ranked que pop. But to level new toons to 50 just to see how the pvp is is more than a grind. Love to see some real answers to these questions and maybe the name of a few guilds who are serious ranked players. There are lots of very skilled players on other servers who are searching for a new home and would like a few honest answers to help us choose. Great opportunity for pvp guilds. Even greater opportunity if you show us that pot5 is a great place to pvp, and we could persuade others to reroll or transfer as well. Any help is greatly appreciated.

What are some good pvp guilds to join, new to server. Thanks kindly for any responses

Ya sulu is a solid player, thx for trying to set up some wpvp .

Interesting question. How are ranked ques?

Stating fact. Members of credit shot left their guild just this week over butthurtedness. And your licking their boots. So when I talk about the state of pvp and the guilds who are queuing and requeing, read and memorize it son. Take your bootlicking troll butt to someone else's post.

Les you gave them props for requeing, scroll up before you troll.

So the only good tank is assassin? And Opertives can't do damage? Highly interesting

Lol credit shot has to be the most butt hurt guild. They deny losses and that they were even on a team with a loss. Heck thy even quit their guild over it. Funny stuff Les. Reque ha The fact is there are great players in guilds that cant field and eight man team and when they que, the opposing team singles them out because the other seven players are utter garbage. A few weeks of topping the charts on dps and damage in/ deaths you will quickly find something better to do than letting a premade have four guys jump you with heals, while your teammates run around and hide. The competition could be great but the good players are soo spread out between seemingly pve only guilds and pvp pretenders that ranked ques are nonexistent. The only thing left to do is reroll and wait for transfers. Love to see some coordination and a pvp summit or something. But as it stands there are a few good pvprs and they won't field a team together because their egos get in the way. The pubs and the imperials should just get on here and rank the top twenty best players of each class. Post em up. And have ranked matches between these players to increase their standing. If you don't like not being in the top twenty que up and show off . And to all the self proclaimed ******es who constantly throw around foolish statements, that they are the best, or their ranking is great, or that their record is 34-1 beat that, yaadaa yaadaa . Que up and show someone that you can pvp and not just troll chat.

New to server. Nice to hear that the main problem your having is too many scrub teams to kill. Definitely not like that on my old server. Was wondering which imperial guilds are active in running rateds and are recruiting . Or if this is a imp dominated server if there is a strong pub guild looking for an active PvP'r ? Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

The real question is is pvp any better,faster ques, or any ranked at all. Dont think you will get anyone to say yes to those questions. And any defenders will only say f2p haven't hit 50 yet. And yes seen some already.

It is very interesting for all of you to emphatically state that your old smaller servers had better pvp. Perhaps it's the familiarity with your opponents or the large surplus of clueless lambs to slaughter that make the better players stand out easily. As a new pot5 player, what guilds are good for ranked pvp on this server? Imperial and republic? Thx

Do ratings even matter when you can only get ONE ranked match per two-three weeks. Seems like the outcome will be heavily skewed. But ratings are there to brag about so if you have the highest nicely done.

Spectacular event, I applaud Esoteric Order