I can see some nice things in AP like H-overdrive in pvp Huttball that would be lovley, but the dps is fallin hard in your succested tree, not that dps is all that matters! Maybe that will be fun playing, me i have always feelt slow in pvp in all scenses, mostly beacuse the lack of escape and a bit sqizzie when not butting pints in Sheild tree! I guess that if you dont entierly focus on dps and more about mobility and function AP would work in pvp, but your no Tank and less of an DPS player, you can still get your 8-10medals if streetsmart in your playstile;) thx for your input;)

I quess that Bioware has some information, numbers and stats that u guys don´t have access to, or d u really think that their goal is to build a angry mobb just for the fun of it? Try it and see when the 1.2 is out!

My BM gear will be orange if i got it right? And i can switch my entier BM-gear to the new set, War Hero gear wich have the same mods and set bonus? So when 1.2 hits i´ll just go to New WH vendor and pick out my new gear? And then place the mods frm my BM into that set? Or do i have to grind pvp wz com to get the new War hero set? I haven´t got the grip of this?

I have played against good and bad pvp-players and taking away the skills, gear, class and all other i can really say that som OP are awsome and all classes are really functional depending on player! Lets face the fact in wz it´s several facts that will keep us from picking out the best or most nerfed class. 1. The primery goal is to win, not kick as in duells 2. Not that often you will be in a singel fight if your goal is to win. 3. If not streetsmart you will die all the time So if we take away the fact that almost all classes in their forum seems to think that 1.2 is a nerf to there way of playing, it´s more of a "who can QQ the most contest". Soon the BioWare inside numbers will come out and then we can judge! Only my opinion

I´m no expert but i´ll give u some tips that has workedout for me! First locat your function as a team player, what do the others need from u to get a win? Second read the hints and tips in this forum so u can use it in the WZ. Take controll, alot of ppl just wanna blame others when losing instead of taking the action into there own hands. Use the chat funktion at start try get their focus on a gameplan so all 8 have the same strategi. Even while in play, help out! Getting the arnaments is free just play your 10matches. Importent is when u get your own part figured out, start checking out what others are supposed to do so u can guide them or help them achive their purpose, remeber at all time it´s as much your job as any others! Try to find some friends to join in wz, then u have the base and it´s easier to controll the rest if u are 2-3 with the same strategi. Knowledgs is the best way of being alert on WZ, learn all classes even Rebs(imps) that way u can use there weakness to your advantages;) Hope this make seens, helpt me alot, felt like a small rabbit and lost maybe 70% in the start, then i started to take controll and learn more and now it´s reversed i have maybe 70% wins;) Good luck! (sry for my grammar)

What i realized is that it all comes down to your type of playstil and not focusing in 100% specc to do the numbers, for me i went AP straight throw while lvl and then when starting pvp at 50 i tryed C-Parkeet wich didn´t go well with my gamestyle, felt very contolled in my WZ part, instead for me a Pyro hybrid was the **** Soo i say some ppl are tank types other dps style of players so the question is for u to find what suits you, the good part is that u have alot to try out in these trees! Read the taugrimtaugrim post in topp of this forum, you have alot of good specc tp tryout befor the 1.2 when some changes will be needed to that! Hope u enjoy and find your style;)

As pvp YES! I played AP while pve-lvl (1-45) and with Mako it was nice, got the balance in heat and keept myself up and running, then when starting playing pvp i got so frustraded cause it was a joke! Then went C Parkeet wich was ok, but after trying Hybrid Pyro i was sold and started to after some training placing myself top 3 with 8-10 medals every match. Ok i feel abit squzzie som times but if u learn to play that style and realize that your not a tank it´s both fun and elite in all ways. Have tryed duell some as well to see how my skills go when not focus is to win or some sniper desids to interupt i relly felt hard as rock;) I love BH PT it´s fun and sometimes i almost feel sorry for my opponents, thinking they got a shot in one vs one in pvp! Question is if i need to respecc totally cause the heat problems or if i can keep on when 1.2 hits?

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZrsrZcIRrzhhM.1 What do u think? Could this work or do this heat up to fast?

Ok, but when reading all the forums it seems like everyone is giving numbers and stuff and some say this and other saying the opposit!? All i would like to get is some builds that the ppl that throw numbers can calculateout that would work, because the main threads written say that Pyro dps is dead because of heat problem, so is it AP that will be the focus, is there any hybrids that would work? Is all the numbers and calculates taken from sky?, i don´t have the insight or knowledges to do the math... Thx for any respons;)

Hi, Would be happy if someone that are good at this calculating stuff can figure out what specc best would be used after patch? Thx ahead, (sry for my grammar)

True, my grammar isn´t good, should have spent more time in school i guess!? Or there should be a Swedish forum, but i think your swedish would be worse than my english grammar??? But u got the point and thats all that matters i quess!

Were i come from society members in there lack of insight and knowlegd tend to complain and complain at work, my boss is an ***, at politics they are idiots so on and on! What we se now is that the big number of players are like kids, not abel to think larger than there own conserns.... ME ME ME I AM A BABY ME ME I have read at almost all class-forum and it seems like all are trying to be the most NERFED class of them all, Good the have created balance in nerfing all!? How many of u have all inside info regarding how the stats in pvp loks like??? I know that BioWare have that insight! Mostly your complains is striktly about you and your playstile, but put it in sentence of numbers like BW does and the BIG Picture maybe locks diffrently!? What stunns me is that people take the time to log on in forum and write things like this: All my guild has dropped of and there friends and so on it must be at least 5000, and i dont even have the game on my computer anymore!? Why bother? What is Nerfed??? it´s a definition of change, and we all now people dont tend to like changes if there not to the gain of them self. Ask yourself this question or statemant: BIOWARE whant all members to quit so lets destroy this game as quik as possible? And finally look into the mirror and say to yourself: I am best at this and i know everything there is to know about mmo so i will creat a game that will beat WoW and SWTOR and will be soo loved by all the players at all time, let us not talk about the millions dollar i will make doing this! So instead of crying like kids try to adapt and find solutions to the cange and take it like a MAN(Woman)! If all classes has been Nerfed like there forum seems to say it might even function in a better way in real game? Try and enjoy if not leave and shut the **** up, so the rest of us millions can enjoy the game and use the forums for creative dialogs!!! My thoughts.....

I agree in pvp is more fun playing equal or as eq it can be in the balance between classes, but i´m a winner type of player and like to try to get the best the game can offer. (not winning in wz i mean more like in game overall) The fact that there is some gear, pet or something that i have to really struggel to get givs me some sick nice feeling;) At this point it has been the pvp-gear just because the feeling when in centurion gear and a Full BM player just runover u feeling givs me some kind of enjoy even when getting run´d over, cant explain it better, but all cred to him;) Have some problem with the idea that by giving people the same gear will stop the complaining more likley they will complain over there class being nerfd or something like that instead. fact is that pvp as it is formed now is not a good measur of being a good player or not so many factors in play, like the sniper in the background the focus on the player u trying to kill maybe focus on ball instead of u!? My wiev of pvp in wz is more of a team effort, i can get killed a million time if it means that my team is winning, if u want to get equal or try your skill DUEL other classes or for best result the same of u to see if u are better at using your talents than the opposit player! WZ is more being streetsmart in the area and using the enviroment and your teammates skills to your benifit in winning, like who hasen´t been killed by laughing player when they are 3 against u solo! Thats life;) My hope was that a bigger focus in wz would be placed in team efforts and that way be abel to get gear or things. It will be more of a sport if like to get a cheast peice u need 100 wins, and take away the group option only 2 group at same time so there will be a fair chans for players new to game or in smaller guild! The gear dosent have to be better then the other but my winner focus can for an ex be to get the golden armour that only "1000" wins give u, it would say more about me than anything else, there is that teamplayer that really now how to win, and the medel seeker can go around wearing same stat but in other color and uglyer stuff(more por in its custome).?? Just a thing in my mind;) Love this game and for u in game if u get run down by a Powertech its me;) That way u see it as it is a strategic play whit others and not a measur of how good u are at getting medals!

Just wanna start by giving some facts to the table, i´m lvl 50 BH Powertech Valor 62 into pvp, with specc hybrid whit focus pyro! It´s so awsome to play this class, i feel like it´s my playground all the time, offcourse some times the snipers piss me off and the lack of disapering skills but in the overall i LOVE the Powertech;) I normally get between 8-10 medals and my winrate is about 70-30 in my server, Hex Droid... Anyone else feel this way? If acctully started playing alts but have a hard time do be away from my BH;)

I´m sorry but to get this straight for me, my english is not the best! War Hero rank is = Valor 70? or 64 as i heard somewere? BM gear will be traded in for the new pvp set at patch 1,2.? If u dont have BM gear u can buy the new gear with WZ commendations earned from a wz match. The amount earned is a result depending on your score/place in that WZ! So if i now get the full BM set it will mean that when patch 1.2 gets her i have the War Hero outfit done and secured? If i heard right the best ever gear would be the rakata with some pvp War Hero or BM mods? This will mean that all us suckers that played pvp and not pve will be outrunned gearwise from pve players that easylie can get the pvp set whit the new rules, am i right? I saw a thread were someone were looking at the War hero vendor, was that at the test server or can i find him now??? I´m lvl 50 BH Valor 62