4:00 AM Server time? That might be difficult for you to make it to raids....

Jedi Mime Trick is recruiting on The Bastion. We're 4/4 EC HM and 2/5 TfB HM. We're looking for enthusiastic players for end game content. Even if your not fully geared in Rakata+ if your willing to learn and be patient we're the guild for you. Our population is healthy with 30+ people online during peak hours. We are most active during the evenings (we go by Server Time) If your interested or want to know more just post here or whisper to one of my characters in game. (Dreydrey, Dreyzer, Dreyzon) Or whisper our Guild Master, Oshimo.

After playing hundreds of level 50 Warzones and then playing below level 50 Warzones for the past week, I can say that the later feels much more balanced and in more enjoyable. Expertise needs to go.

Shadow tanks protect me best, especially since the guardians often force leap around everyone which makes it impossible to follow.

Well of course you think its better you are on the positive side of it, I'm on the negative. Both of our bias is clear. At least we agree on something. Healing in its current state still needs to be fine tuned.

See this is the problem, the game as it stands right now works in a premade group with people that are coordinated and in constant communication together. But what about those many times when you can't play PVP with a premade group? BW needs to calculate that fact into the equation, especially since as of right now you can't even queue more than 4 people together. They need to find the balance of premades vs premades being fun and non premades vs non premades being fun for all classes. Right now the later is simply not fun. Did you just compare how hard it is to take down another Sentinel or Mara using your Sent? What does that have to do with anything? We are talking about Healer vs DPS. Before 1.2 if a good Mara got on me I knew that unless someone came to help me I would eventually die. But I could delay that Mara, for a reasonable amount of time, if I executed everything correctly. A Mara that didn't know what he was doing was just like an annoying fly, but one that knew how to take down a healer, was very dangerous, even before 1.2. Don't even get me started on how dangerous an operative was. Even many other DPS that I have talked to have admitted that after 1.2 they just rip through healers like they are tissue paper. I have admitted before that in 1.2 healing was overpowered, as have many other healers. However post 1.2 went too far to tone us down and all most of us want is balance, not "WE WANTS GODZ MODE HEALZ BACK NAOW!" I am open to reason and ideas on how balance can be made. You on the other hand think that the current system is absolutely flawless and nothing needs to be changed.

Obviously a healer is not meant to stop death forever. As a healer though, your goal is to stop someone from being killed, if you don't know that then you have never played as a hear or you just sucked at it. If the DPS can out run the amount that is healed so quickly that the healer basically becomes useless then it is unbalanced. That is what we have right now in 1.2. You have time and time again shown yourself to be unreasonable and not open to any ideas other than your own in multiple topics. You have shown that you think that 1.2 is absolutely perfect. Therefore I see no reason to further continue this debate with you since it will not lead anywhere.

So DPS aren't there to get kills they are there to do just do damage? That's exactly what your saying with that logic. Healers are meant to not only prolong death for a short period, but if they are doing well, stop it all together.

Have you ever even played as a healer in lvl 50 Warzones? Or Hard Mode or Nightmare Ops and Flashpoints? Ranged DPS does not have to monitor every single team mate in the party at the same time, all they have to do is target one person until they are dead.When A Ranged DPS makes a mistake it does not cost someone they're life. If a healer makes a mistake the person dies. If its in a HM Ops or FP then the entire team could wipe. I agree with you that healing was slightly OP before the patch. But I think it was mostly the fact the DPS was under powered in WZ. Now its just ridiculous. I'm not even going to address your other points because the first one was so ridiculous.

This post is full of win. As A healer I know that unless DPS focus fires the other teams healer, they might as well be fighting with wet noddles. Even when I repeat it over and over again, "Focus fire ____" Rarely do I get people to cooperate. And DPS, do you know how hard and stressful of a job healing is? Not only do you have to worry about yourself the enemy and the objectives, but you also have to worry about your ENTIRE team! As a healer you are responsible for the life of your team. When people die, they blame you, but when they live, they often don't notice. Heealing is one of the least popular classes to play, why? Because its more difficult. BW decided to make it even harder to heal and makes the class even less popular. What's next? Tanks have less HP?

Yes I know both you and Forbes. I haven't played on my Sage (Drey) very much since the update so I don't think I've run across you since you've spec'd DPS. However I do remember playing against you as a healer and you were formidable, but when I would finally get my team to pay attention and focus fire you, you would go down. I'm not sure if this was you or not Drizzle, but I remember one match of Alderaan Civil War where I was guarding our left turret and you came over and me and you got in a death match for at least 5 minutes and it basically turned into a wet noodle fight until others came...lol I was on "Drey".

This is one of the best and most well thought out posts I've ever read. Thank you! If BW doesn't at least take some of the things being said in this thread to heart, then all hope really is lost. On my server, Daragon Trail, The imps have the higher population and are mostly DPS (I think that goes for most Imps). The Pubs are the underdogs and we have mostly healers and tanks. This update destroyed PVP on our server, as you could probably guess. The Imps tear through us like tissue paper. It just makes me depressed now anytime I play my Sage.

So you have the CPU overclocked to 4Ghz? Are you achieving those Frame Rates even in WZ's?

Hmmm I don't think it is the ISP because even when I take my system over to a friends house, with a different ISP, I get the same FPS. I don't see how it could be the SSD. I think that It might be the fact that I have an i5 and not and i7, and this game happens to be CPU intensive. To be a little more clear, I get about 80-90 FPS on planets and on the fleet in areas like the Combat Training area I get anywhere from 25-60 FPS depending on the pop of the server at the time. I'm on Daragon Trail and on the Imp fleet about 60 of them all huddled together to infect each other with the Rahkgould plauge and when I'm standing near all of them it drops to like 15, but I'd expect that... I'm still curious to see the FPS that others are getting.

I don't think you are brainless or an idiot, I am merely stating that no matter how much you analyze numbers and data, you can not reach an accurate conclusion untill you apply them into the real world. Which you have not.