If i had to guesstimate how many times i've played you guys i'd say its been approximately 20 times over the months and i've lost 6 that i can remember , so lets do some simple math 20/6 = 73% and i talked to all the boys in mumble and they share the same estimate the 80 percent is what we'd guestimate our guild winning ratio is , so either we're all dillusional or somethings not adding up. This is the only time i'm going to address this so if you'd like argue do it with yourself. I had tons of respect for uncensored until this week , i was even ignoring the fact that you guys were stomping our pug rateds. As far as last wizard his shadows name is fear not sure who his assassin is and do not care, the games i seen you in the numbers were not impressive , obviously another baby troll spawning and trying to draw attention to himself threw the forums and not with his gameplay.

I'd definitely be down to do this , but it'd be hard to get imp side to co-operate / coordinate this.

I'm the first to admit i've trash talked a lot in the past and i've tried to change my ways because it was reflecting badly on myself and my guild. But in the cases of trash talk you're speaking of towards your guild is because of the stuff i mentioned in my troll post which you of course missed the point in and towards shatterman who told your guildies personal stuff which was then used against me by people like troyy pjb etc.. I clearly love this game, look at all the time i spend on it and my trash talk / troll posts towards unicorn stampede are me voicing my opinion and many people on this servers opinions of your guild as far as the ranked situation and regular warzone super q'ing. Your definition of fun might be unfair bully play in my opinion can you agree somewhat ? When you super q in a regular warzone you're ruining the game experience for the people against you. As far as my original point for my post in this thread , get a clue there was no ranked q's , i've sat there many nights in q with a full ranked team and only q's we got were either stopped after we beat the random team we encoutered or we got word from someone in uncensored they wanted to play otherwise no q's were popping. As far as our elitest guild dying ? we have enough to q for a solid ranked team pretty much any day of the week read this post for further clarification http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=587241 . So i'm clearly frustrated with the guilds deciding to q up against our pugs because there was barely any q's for months and now all of a sudden people wanna q ? But at the same time ld 50 was being accused of killing the ranked scene , i don't know what else i can do to help the pvp / ranked scene at this point. Xilriso you seem like a level headed guy and i'm sorry if i came at you guns blazing if you want to talk in game and squash this its fine but hopefully you and others will understand that all i'm doing is trying to bring a little life into ranked because i love this game and will understand that stomping our pugs will discourage people. Maybe we can work out a schedule of some sort to make this all work ?

You guys do have a legit ranked team congrats !!! and i've figured out your formula here it goes.... Step 1. Get a small group of atrocious players to reroll from a pvp server like the fatman for example to a pve server , canderous ordo for example. Step 2. Hit 50 and recruit players of your low skill who you think are good but in reality are not like shatterman and pjb for example but its an extensive list none the less , remember children just because you think you're good doesn't mean you really are. Step 3. Proceed to talk loads of crap and make claims of takin over pvp before you even test the waters. Step 4. Lose numerous ranked warzones , get put in your place and become a pve guild. Step 5. Super q in regular wzs for months because a 4 man premade isn't enough to pull of a win if you're in unicorn stampede ( don't forget to repeat step 3 minus the claims of taking over pvp because at this point you've failed) Step 6. Wait for combatmedic and the pvp community to try and revive the dead ranked scene by putting together and encouraging ranked pvp play with kickball style pick up groups. Step 7. Proceed to reform a ranked team because now lethal dose fifty isn't around to farm us they're busy playing ranked pugs and we can beat some of the ranked pugs if we form a ranked group with every crutch in the game, 4 smashers and bubble stun should do the trick ( repeat step 3 here after we win especially if we see cm's pug team) *Important procedure to follow make sure to spread rumors that lethal dose fifty don't q ranked because they lose to uncensored on a regular basis (when in fact we win 80 % of the time we play them if not more)

Thanks to everyone who has been participating this week , it's been a great success in my opinion. We've had 5 teams q'ing almost every night. I won't be available tonight (05/01/13) to get this going but anyone is welcome to get the ball rolling , i'll be back tomorrow night hopefully we'll be able to continue the momentum of this idea.

Thanks to everyone who participated on 01/01/13 very successfull tun out once again had 4 teams going , mumble crashing cut our night short but i'm going to do this again tomorrow same time 8 eastern. /cjoin pubpvp everyone is welcome to participate.

Xanxas i'm out of town right now so i can't message you in game , you didn't organize this so you're in no place to say we're gonna pick this up in a week or two its going to continue on tuesday. Stop speaking for all of ld. For the rest stop with the negativity and arguing please.

Glad to see people posting they had fun , let's keep this a positive thing. We can't police who q's for ranked and when lol so hopefully no one was discouraged by the losses to uncensored / unicorns and will participate again. I won't be on tonight and not sure about tomorrow as i will be out of town so if someone wants to get this going tomorrow they're welcome to do so. The main idea here is to introduce players to ranked and the environment hopefully other teams will understand this and be respectful , we can't ask a certain guild / group not to q up when we were doing this event but hopefully impside will follow suit so there are more ranked pugs to play and introduce our new faces to some evenly matched competitive games. Happy new years everyone.

thanks for playing guys , spaghetti and meatbags were definitely in the spirit of what we're trying to do here , hope to see you guys around

zab you're not a true watchmen lol and relax you guys can still participate in the channel / pug ranked

Thanks to everyone who participated on 12/30/12 was a very successfull turn out we had 4 teams going at one point. We're gonna try to make this a regular thing everyday at 8 pm eastern just /cjoin pubpvp . Everyone is welcome to participate , you can message me in game ( combatmedicjr / rippernine ) for details or ask in channel for info. Let's keep this a positive thing , no crap talking and hopefully other teams participating will understand we're introducing new players to ranked and will not "pug stomp" so let's keep it clean. Thanks again

your posts in this thread , enough said . we're trying to do something positive and you're already making it negative. otherwise refer to your attention seeking troll in general chat everyday on fleet. The end move on if you don't want to contribute in a positive way to our ideas here.

Me and nebu'kanezar set up a channel on pubside similar to the one on imp side called pubpvp , whisper me or neb for an invite , we're gonna give one player from all the major guilds power to invite minus watchmen because they're professional trolls as you've seen shin'arika put on display in this thread but they are more then welcome to join if they can keep the troll'ing to a minimum. The point of this channel is to hopefully get this kickball ranked scene going , i have a mumble available as well. I agree it sucks to have to do this to get some ranked games going but a lot of players are feeling discouraged in pvp and this will hopefully make the pvp community stronger on this server.

I dont usually take screenshots or pay attention to my numbers like hps and dps etc. but i thought i'd get involved http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/screenshot2012122910595.jpg/ number 3 kill and wins

I like this idea and if we can get a time set . and spread the word server wide and have a mumble available this could work

Keep me in the loop as to what time you guys are q'ing a bunch of us in ld50 don't care about rating and can help field your teams , I can heal pub or imp side , or dps pub side. Contact me in game Combatmedicjr / rippernine. I like the ideas being passed around in this thread if we can get something going on a regular basis , get a time where everyone meets in a mumble which i can provide , get team captains pick even teams , hopefully avoid drama lol and field a few even teams.

Yup! seen a few different teams , was a good night of rateds , gj bloodline and tryhards united on the competitive games let's em keep em rolling !

Agreed props to teamluckyseven for showing up and virtuous honor for some competitive games , lets keep it rolling.

Totherkins - Pj-b didn't successfully troll all of ld-50 , i addressed him because pj-b like many of your other members aren't smart enough to think for themselves and probably sit in guild chat with troy and his merry band of baddies and say stuff like "we beat pvp on this server" , "we came over from the fatman and we run this server no one wants to q ranked against us", you know dillusional stuff like that. When in fact you guys are now a pve guild , only time i'll see troy and many of your memvers is when you guys have 8 of you's in a regular wz. I just wanted to address this lie before it went "viral". Jaiden - i wish i could come heal for you guys and reading this thread it sounds like imp side still needs some consolidation,

I'm making this post for two reasons , first reason is i log into combatmedic today to send myself some creds pubside and first thing i see is PJ-b sittin in general saying lethal dose fifty doesn't q ranked anymore they're scared of uncensored. False pj-b the fear you're thinking of comes from your guilds fear of us (lethal dose fifty). We always try to form up at 8-9pm eastern minus tuesday which is pve night. Yesterday and few times before some of our premades ran into 8 unicorn stampede members in the same regular warzone , and also seen the same trend from tryhards united. So here comes the second reason why i made this post , are any other guilds q'ing up and would like to share what time they're q'ing up at. The ranked scene is becoming a ghost town on this server which is sad cause i know a lot of us still love pvp in this game and ranked is the only way to avoid having to carry 4 awful pugs in a regular warzone lol. Most nights we q we get no pops and get discouraged after an hour of waiting or we see uncensored for a few competitive games. I think other guilds have to pick up the attitude that if you don't play against better guilds you won't improve yourselves , the gear gap excuse is gone, you can be fully optimized war hero in a week . So hopefully some guilds with some brass in their pants will step up soon or the ranked scene will continue to be a myth. Ps. i hope no one impside shares pj'bs views. we have a high win ratio from my experience playing uncensored and they have my respect for their continued perseverance.

Ok Krayshawn i wasn't going to address you , i seen your various posts in various threads , I like your enthusiasm but slow down no one knows who you are and drawing attention to yourself gets you focused. The games i seen you in you were not breaking 300k or anywhere near that i was pushing your ^%$ in. My sage is dumptruck....

Naxom i thought i seen you with a different guild tag then virtous honor :/ and i can't speak for all my guildies but we all try to have a never fire first attitude when it comes to talking crap. We all have respect for gilgamesh so it falls down to the rest of your guildies ,your assassins and operatives (i won't mention any names) don't follow your respectful moto.

I am definitely guilty of giving up on imp. side and like a few stories i read here i had the same experience on my last weeks or so q'ing imp side on combatmedic(sr) lol. It was absolutely dreadfull q'ing up on imp side me and my friend booglefunk (who's hopefully making a return soon) were devastated after the server transfers how bad imp side was so like many of the good pvp'ers we followed suit and went pub side in hopes of joining ld50. I like what try hard uniteds is trying to do as far as consolidating the good pvp'ers into one guild but i believe they are going about it in the wrong way, infidelz tried doing the same months ago and failed because with good players also comes an elitest attitude which i am also guilty of having myself . My favorite guild imp side is virtuous honor ( i can't say uncensored they're our competition why ? because whenever you see them in a wz you know you're in for some competition , they have a die hard attitude and no ego's as far as i can tell. When ranked first started for us on canderous ordo we put together a pug one afternoon and almost did the impossible at the time, we almost beat ld50 (we lost by a hair and at the time imp side guilds were getting farmed by ld50) why do i bring this up ? because this pug was composed of the biggest ego's imp side , i'm not going to mention names but 5 or 6 or us were never in the same guild imp side on canderous ordo and i kept preaching to all these people on a weekly basis if we can check our egos at the door we can be the top guild on the server and eventually infidelz was formed minus some key players (and later went on to beat ld50) , i wasn't originally in it because of my own ego problems but i later followed suit. Point of my rant and this story is i believe if the best players imp side got together and made people app. and were trialled by good players and denied or accepted based on a night of ranked or regular warzones and crunched some numbers afterwards you'd have a solid guild if you can all check your egos at the door (outside of uncensored or even with uncensored hey isn't that an idea lol ) yeah this wouldn't solve the problem of there only being one dominant guild imp side / pub side but with the number of good pvp'ers i believe this is the only way you'll bring balance back to pvp. You can make many arguments against what i'm saying and i'm aware of these points before you make them but until you check your ego's at the door and get together your pvp frustrations will continue , these are a few key players impside that i know who can step up and make this happen. On a side note i am noticing a lot of players coming from the fatman / prophecy of the five claiming they're pvp gods and we're garbage please stand up for yourselves in wzs and don't let them troll you.

lol oh god . im thinking you two are lying children ? i trolled you originally cause i seen you guys talkin crap in a lowbie pvp match with a 4 man prime defence premade a while ago , i said what i had to say to you then it was done then you kept it going , i trolled you enough to the point where you pleaded for me to stop and i did then the other day you started again lol . vasyel originally whispered me out of no where after a match and he brought up pedia , you guys are just awful fan bois.

not a hater , just a truth speaker , i give props where they are due and my dealings with this guy have led me to my statement , if i dont see you do well in ranked and you talk crap in a regular wz like he does , youre a try hard scrub to me and we farm the crap out of him and his premadesall day but as soon as he wins one game he has to rub it in