My vote goes for KC 31/0/10 i ve been running inf a lot but atm its not viable at imo. I ve also tried balance but i couldnt stand it for long coz it has not good dmg and u cant kill ppl in 1 v 1. I also never lost to balance or infil shadow neither hybrid.

Actually medpack is better than wz heal. stims ofc they are the best and about adrenals its better to use expertise pots coz bioware no longer allow us to use adrenals + expertise pots and they have the same CD so it would be better to have expertise pots but as Philosomanic said u should better not spend any coms on expertise pots untill u r full pvp gear. P.S: i got 45 expertise pots but i still use adrenal for some unknown reason:p

Biotech ofc u will have reusable medpacks/stims/adrenals. Atm these are the best u can get but bioware said that they will make better non reusable in the next patch although i still recommend u to take biotech coz probably u will be able to craft them with it also.

HAHAH this was rly a funny post. (these armors indeed look better than our armors ) Anyway from the pics armor looks rly ugly but in game i think it must be good.

I agree with you they should make infil viable:mad: atm KC is rly good spec at least i own everything with it. But i m so disappointed with the 1.2 patch. Every class got some balance/nerf-balance/buff except us. And sentinels/marauders will be rly benefit from this patch

Ok here is my thought about surge/power and 1 question i gotta ask if soem1 of u have tested it. Power gives some base dmg ++ so that mean surge has a new base dmg to multiply which means more crit dmg. Surge obviously should give more crit dmg but. The main question is why do most shadows use power adrenal especially kinetic ones who have 100% crit on project and their BM gear gives crit rate also. I have 2 pieces of BM gear atm and i got 28% crit rate base w/o smuggler buff (with it i m on 35%). Many shadows like u powerr use power adrenas and that my question why? EDIT: I ran some test for surge Resutls: with adrenal i went to 79,57% surge and then i ve used my relic which couldnt pas 79,88% so that means surge rate is at 79,88% (most ppl say 80 so they must be correct). Only with adrenal i dont diminishing returns so that means i shoudl still use surge adrenal?

Thx for ur reply i m testing 31/0/10 for 3-4 days and since now its rly good the only bad think is that i dont take the 2.5k medal so easy but i get much more from guard. Also the 1 v 1 seems better since now mass fights also. Generally i like this spec more than 2/31/8 only think left is some more replys abotu ppl who done 1 v 1 woth burst shadow. (i m using dps pvp items)

Can a 31/0/10 (with dps gear) beat a full burst 2/31/8 (both with the same gear)?

I found both of ur videos rly nice about the bursting guide thats how i m playing but i like survivability also. And i cant decide which is better for pvp i m using 2/31/8 right now (its quite good) tested the 27/14 spec which i didnt like and i have to test the 23/18 and 31/0/10. Which one is better for pvp u think? i saw in ur video that u lost abou 1-2k of ur previous dmg. And can a kinetic shadow beat the infil shadow in 1v1?

well basicaly i reached 50 yesterday but with no pvp armor now with 2 parts i see the real problem shadow is rly awesome xD

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Hi, i ve hitted lvl 50 and i make some wz open world pvp and i see snipers scoundrels are strong they even beat me for some reason most of the times when they got healer comp (i dont know but imperial comp seems to heal more than mine) So i ve just wanted to ask is shadow dps better than scoundrels/gunslinger for pvp? or i need more practise? I m wondering about mass pvp and 1 v 1 also.

well its not my 1st mmo and i know how things go i like mmos where u can raid to get items u get ONLY from raids/ and pvp clan vs clan mb or guild vs guild u know.. not only warzones

well i tryed and mb i did some mistake coz it was late last and i didnt sleep at all so get a life.

I dont want another char neither higher lvl i want more choice to make the game more competitive between sides.

So lets see u go lvl 50 u finish all the class quest and u do some flashpoints u play warzones and u get pvp gear. Ok good now what? Do u have any other normal quests? and if u do what is the point to make them since u r already 50 with full light side or dark side points? Warzones get bored sometimes if u do them allday and open world pvp suck coz no reward :/ I mean shouldnt be smth more intresting like hmm have the Best guild from each side which will be decided by some guilds pvp with the other faction etc. A new system of team work pvp which has reward or smth. Mayve smth like hmm take common planet every week or so that guilds from each side can take by defeating guilds on the other side. This will be available once every 2 weeks the winner guild will have some rewards etc from this planet. I see no reason to play a game when there are 2 sides and u cant see which is better. What s ur opinion guys?

well infil is based on melle wth his shadow strike CS force breach and project the point is i m not rly base on my range spells like telek and project is an add after i use my melee abilities

well i used shield and kinetic ward all the item. Now about the armor i tested with my infil armor (as infil i used to do 3-4k with my shadow strike usually 2k with force breach and around 1.5-2k with project) with kinetic my crits and normal are dmg were so low!

well i need more suggestions also on this ty for ur reply atm i m testing it with my infil armor my priority was willpower - crit - power I have to use the double strike-and project thing again atm i spam shadow strike a lot :/ but it is neccesery as it seems i ll go like videos i ve seen with project and DS spamm and when 30% SS. EDIT TEST RESULTS: So i ve tested kinetic 27/14/0 i cant stand it anymore my setup was my normal infil armor with stacked will power crit etc. I see i have not enough dmg and i dont see much diffrence in def stats.It seems it doesnt fit ME thats my personal opinion. Didnt test the kinetic/balance setup coz i also want to be melee not based on tele and proect. I havent use armor with def stats coz i rly cant stand a player with so low dmg (if u think that i m already dissapointed with the low dmg with willpower-crit stats on my armor). So as u understand i like a high dmg class with good survivability which i cant find this on tank/dps shadow so i ll continue on infil.Maybe some of u wanna try pure tank shadow mb its good for u but for me no thx all for the replys. Btw as infil i do like 3-4k which is rly good so i dont think a kinetic shadow can beat a good infil shadow. With few words: IMO dont play dps/tank shadow its not good if u want try pure tank.

ok thx all i m testing kinetic atm should i go for defense stats or dmg stats like infil i dont actually want to be full tank smth like off-tank i want to have nice dmg with nice survivability.

u r the 1st one i hear that from most ppl say use shield rating and defense rating as main stats what i ve seen so far is that with my dps gear stacked up crit and only a shield as offhand nothing else for kinetic i ll do nice dmg but i still dont see any big diffrence. Tmr i ll test him at warzones to see how it goes but i rly dont think if i change my gear for defense stats my dmg will be like 400-500 max. So i rly think going back to infil :/

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thx all for the replys i wanna hear more if possible i think i ll give kinetic a try.

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Hi all, i m lvl 45 shadow infil i havent tryed balance and i dont want to coz i dont like its style but i was wondering what is the best spec for pvp infil or kinetic and also in 1 v 1 can a kinetic shadow kill infil shadow? Thx all for ur replys