They don't want premades dominating the 4v4 regular queue... Use some sense! If you want arena as 4v4 play ranked... Otherwise, take your chances.

someone should make a list...

you are a smart person.

i definitely enjoyed reading your post, but thats mostly due to the epic music in the background. i'll be honest... i dont really care for 8v8 RWZ as they are now. This game is not very well balanced around 8v8, it was better pre 2.0 when dps could actually kill the huttball carrier, and when novare coast got capped because you killed the other team, and when you didnt respec to 4 heals 4 tanks in civil war just because you capped 0.1 seconds faster.

im just sitting at my computer waiting til its up.

Advanced Prototype is best for both.

I'll probably be streaming too.

Oooooooooo shots fired.

Hostile Takeover BBQ in 2 weeks! PST in game for invite

if only there was a way to track rwz's that aren't uploaded/streamed...

Excellently worded... So simple yet so genius. I'm adding it to my original post on my thread that actually represents how teams are doing.

made a few changes to the original post.... i probably missed something obvious, because i'm really tired... so lemme know.

a little off... but overall, a good list. i support this.

just read bshenkd's guide... then you'll realize there is no smarter vote.

ok well... why don't you go back a use the records from the thread so you can actually display some records..

HT tonight: 2-1 vs Casual 1-1 vs LD50 0-2 vs Clutch http://www.twitch.tv/aioribfz/b/432458323

Hopefully not... We used to need gear grind for reason to play... But now they can just use more rwz activity for incentives. They should make rated gear... 1500, 2200, 3000 and make them look progressively better and better. And unique!!!!!

hey... this is my thread... i want it to live also.. i made some changes to the list today given recent changes to certain guilds/teams in the past week

gotcha... good point from that perspective. but alternatively rated team doesn't always mean guild. EX: Even though Legend had an A team vs a B team, they still at one point held that #1 spot since their team was doing the best at the time... the losses of their B team didn't give their A team a bad name, people knew what was what. That all being said... it seems hostile is gonna have to make an alt guild, something thats kinda annoying but whatever... we'll do it if it pleases the masses in terms of win tracking... we actually really enjoy alt rateds... its like a rated vacation where losses aren't as serious. ( thats why i stream alt rateds with open comms and stuff)

i think the misunderstanding was between the meaning of the match toward the list vs the meaning of the match toward the doc. you may as welll count everything for the doc since its just for tracking.

also, like i said... 1-0 vs slackers tonight, 2-0 vs legend, winless vs ID in the games already logged. but i have no screenshots so i guess unless one of the other teams confirms or posts they wont be counted?

alright... do whatever you wanna do with the doc... but unfortunately i dont screenshot every game.... there comes the flaw... also .... i will not count alt games when considering the overall rankings because the rankings should actually indicate which teams are better/stronger.

playing to gear and for fun... the line doesn't really need to be drawn, the good players just know. ex: if hostile takeover beats casual, but leige isn't tanking, and noshadow isn't sniping, and mugen isn't smashing and a bunch of other people we don't know... etc we would know, thats not really casual we beat... and if we beat that team 10 times, we don't claim to be better than casual.

You miss the point im making... its not about tracking really.. If WAR beats Hostile Takeover while we're on our alts 15 times in a row, then Hostile Takeover gets on their mains and beats WAR 3 times in a row, Hostile Takeover is the better team. We played 9 games the other day on our alts ( http://www.twitch.tv/brobi1/b/430116725 ) , and beat watchmen, and S key twice... i didn't mention it, because who cares?? S Key had alts on their team too, so the game doesn't really matter... Watchmen, not so much, but whatever. We're talking about how strong teams are, not how well they do when they're playing alt rateds.

did you see the players in that game there??