Okay guys I would like to offer a scenario and have some constructive feedback in order to better enlighten new and totally lost players in pvp. You have a healing sorc, a sniper, a jugg tank and a marauder in an arena.....who do you attack in what order and why?

As previously stated 0 rage but plenty of disgust. I'm well aware of the time and effort required in crafting. This does not mitigate the gouging observation I alluded to.

I have multi-millions saved from fairly pricing mats it's not an issue to me I'm just disgusted by the mentality. My toons are fully augd despite the rise in price. All I'm saying is one can still turn a profit not gouging. There's no rage in my post.

mk-8's going for 90k is a riot. Hell mk-10's were only 40k prior. Opportunist are horribad. It's one thing to make a profit and another thing entirely to do what's happening now. And then for every guy selling to price fix. Man that's bad on another level entirely. I know I'm gonna get flamed by the it's not hard at get money guys but.......by saying that you more than prove my point. Setting mk-8's at the same price mk-10's were you would still be making a profit handoverfiste!

Would be funnier if we didn't have reason to see it over and over again!!!

Pvpr's as a whole aren't d-cks.......they are just tired of people coming into wz's without being knowledgeable of the strats or playing their classes correctly. Wz's are as serious to pvprs as ops are to pver's. You would be overly friendly about a guy in a op not performing so why should experienced pvpr's be enthused to have matches thrown by guys kill chasing rather than doing objectives?

Lol you guys are hypocrites. You get an entire "expansion" with no emphasis at all to pvp and cry about the one thing in it that requires pvp for an unlock. Pvpr's have been screeching for weeks about their apparent ostracism from swtor and the pve community basically told them to suck it up.....well may I be the first to return that sentiment about this here!!!!

You mean just like sage/sorc can With their yank? Yeah.....op NOPE!!!!! Just requires more strat to combat this that's all. ADAPT!!!!

and thats the problem kotr was a rpg swtor is billed as a mmo. two different things entirely but bw seems fit to reduce swtor to kotr anyways...........

we are not speaking on what is to come only what has been released. i was lvl 65 in 3 hours no way in hell you hit 55-60 in revan in 3 hours.

NO IT ISNT. ^^^^ this is a blatant lie out and out!!!!! when revan dropped there was tons of pvp in yavin!!!! you did not finish it end to end in 5 hrs. you did not hit 60 in 3 hours.

consider yourself lucky.............your the guys who overslept and missed THE TITANIC!!!!!

reposting an earlier comment that sums it up 4 me.... This is a COLOSSAL blunder on bw part!!!! Just horribad. 3 hours to hit top lvl. a story thats on rails so hard it should be a kiddie ride at a theme park, and no immersion into what happening around the character. its just a" kill this then kill that" slide into boredom!!! Quiet possibly the death rattle for this game!!!!

its shorter and 10x more boring. revan advanced the story but kept the overall game play. kotfe will make most players sad beyond belief.

This is a COLOSSAL blunder on bw part!!!! Just horribad. 3 hours to hit top lvl. a story thats on rails so hard it should be a kiddie ride at a theme park, and no immersion into what happening around the character. its just a" kill this then kill that" slide into boredom!!! Quiet possibly the death rattle for this game!!!!

so sad for this.....

This is a COLOSSAL blunder on bw part!!!! Just horribad. 3 hours to hit top lvl. a story thats on rails so hard it should be a kiddie ride at a theme park, and no immersion into what happening around the character. its just a" kill this then kill that" slide into boredom!!! Quiet possibly the death rattle for this game!!!!

3 hrs and lvl 65...............yeah i rest my case.

ah we get it back after 60

BW stole our shoulder cannon!!!!!

Seriously???!!!???? you stealth nerfd us?

Story is needed but so are the other aspects I.e. Pvp,ops,crafting. One sided creation will just cause the overall interest in the game to wane.

Not doomsaying just saying what I felt was lacking to be defined as an EXPANSION. I said I hope I'm wrong...... 4.0 just feels like another revan to me that's all.

its another revan. Not a expansion in the tradition sense it's more of an addon. It's doesn't redefine the game enough to be considered an expansion. The only expanded one aspect of the game. The story. There is nothing new to ops or pvp. There's no new game engine. There's a few tweaks and that's it. A true expansion would open up new worlds or wz's or ops. Mabey new races with their own storyline. It's another band aide on a gunshot wound. Remember this is just my opinion and I hope I'm wrong.