You think addons were the reason people left WoW? Honestly, WoW is vastly superior to SWTOR in almost every aspect of the game, aside from storyline and questing(both of which end at lvl 50). This is pretty much proven due to the fact that they copied almost 100% of the game from WoW(which yes was copied from the earlier MMO's). WoW is an amazing game, but after 7+ years of being out people get bored. It had nothing to do with addons. I hope SWTOR becomes a great game because it definitely has the foundation to do so, however I feel they launched about 2 months too early, which I think will eventually end up ruining the game.

I know guilds that are using DPS tanks because the bosses hit way too slow and for too small amounts. It seems the overall damage is coming from spells or raid damage.

According to your above mechanics, the current bosses only have - DPS burst - DPS overall - movement mechanics (stack/spreadout) Possible - healing throughput There are 0 interrupts necesarry, tanks are not even required, there is no mob control required aside from somebody moving SoA under the pylon. As a sorc healer I have time to DPS, that is how easy it is to heal the current content.

Setanion, Somebody a few posts above who claimed to be at the top of the EQ game, explained that the EQ fights were strat based, which would 100% be possible by trial and error. The current fights in SWTOR are DPS based, and trial and error does not eventually equal a boss kill. Does this make sense?

No and that is not even the fight I am really worried about. Going back and forth with 20 different people is such a waste of time.

Whether or not you played WoW really doesn't matter, the point is that most WoW Heroic bosses are designed around enrage timers which is also the case in SWTOR.

Ok thats what I thought. The SWTOR fights right now are 100% DPS based. The first boss in EV is basically DPS as hard as possible, heal a 15-17k burst, and stack when he missile barrages. The 2nd is basically tank and spank with movement every minute. 4th is 100% 1v1 DPS solo boss. (2 minute enrage solo) 5th is basically see if you can DPS the boss in order to beat the enrage(which ATM is mathematically impossible) I would love nothing more than to worry more about boss mechanics than DPS, but it is not possible ATM.

Awesome post man. I appreciate logical on topic posts. I WANT this game to succeed. I played WoW for 7 years at every level, and I am looking for something different. The operations so far are entertaining, but I am getting frustrated not knowing how to improve my group because of a lack of meter.

Oh god, setanian is posting again. This is the guy that said meters were cheating and using an analogy that every professional sport has been using for 30 years! To whoever said they played EQ and were top 3- Were there super tight enrage timers in EQ? I did not play so I am being serious here. In all honestly, I don't even care about having a meter or not. What I care about is the fact that the operations are being tuned around enrage timers instead of being tuned for boss mechanics, and the former pretty much requires you to know your overall group DPS output.

I don't want it to point fingers... I want it to be able to point a finger. Without knowing who is holding us back, it is impossible as a group to improve. I am a healer, so although I could be the one holding us back, I can virtually guarantee I am not.

Thanks for the suggestion, however this does not solve any issue. Some classes have incredibly higher burst damage than others, some classes perform better in raid situations, and some classes are just overall better than others. It would be useless to attack strong mobs.

What does this even mean? I was referring to top in WoW, which obviously does not 100% transfer over to this game. However, I feel like if we performed at that level in WoW and other past games, it should not be difficult to do here. As to your second point, I am really not sure how to properly reply to something like this? If you are asking us if we have Real life dates with the opposite sex, I can answer yes. How this has absolutely any reference to anything game related, I am not sure. P.S. People can be married, engaged, or single and still be amazing players.

oh my.

TheSkate, I care first of all. Second, what is 3 months going to change? Third, how would you recommend fixing a problem that you can't put a finger on. Our DPS is behind? Yes. Why? No *********** clue. Maybe we should just randomly rotate people out one by one until we eventually come up with a group capable of killing the boss? Sounds like a GREAT idea.

There are definitely people that think you can not beat a boss without a DPS meter. There are also people that can beat the boss without a DPS meter. There are finally people that can't beat a boss without a DPS meter, because they don't know who is holding them back.(this is my issue) I am having trouble beating NM bosses because I have no way to judge who is holding us back. If you know a way I can fix this please let me know.