[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

WoW has terrible world PvP and instanced PvP.

 

And yeah, WoW seems packed since everyone is sitting in same city and queueing for instances. That's all you do there, instance, capital, instance, capital (chat in guild chat while in capital). Huge MMO.... right.

 

Actually WoW PvP wasnt that bad. On some servers was some world PvP and instacned PvP, arenas and BG set bar on highest level on MMORPGs in balance and how t worked. So far on full PvP server i havent seen a single republic player while leveling. Instanced PvP is worse than any game ive seen and ive seen a lot in past 37 years. Abilities aint working cause of stupid delay and fights are based on whos combat system is buggin more. There aint any decent raid frmaes, you cant see whos targeting who and you have to tab or click on nameplates. I cant see any PvP oriented player playing PvP in this game seriously sicne its so bad, although there aint any serious PvP system in this game at all, no ladders, no rankings, nothing.

[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

Not really, it has many necisasiys that WoW did not have (As opposed to most of the extra stuff people "request" on these forums). Examples:

 

Quest helper

More than one action bar

PVP CC duration reduction

Daily quests

/stuck command

 

Its hilarious how many people love to come here and act like they are all knowing, this game has had one of the best launches in MMO history. The only thing making it look bad is the vocal player base

 

You forget that its 2011, not 2004, just like Bioware did.

[what is your #1 complaint about this game right at this moment?]

The players. More specifically, the group that use time they could have been playing to go on the forums and whine how its not exactly the same as WoW.

 

Same as people who blindly defends Bioware without seeing that they made MMORPG that is prolly worse than any "wow killer" before. But hey, lets stick Star Wars on it and it will sell.

[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

It's more MMO than WoW where you sit in capital and queue for assorted instances with automatically chosen participants from very large pool that goes outside your "server" (server is the place your capital exists, and your guild). After said instance is over it pukes you back to capital where you queue for another instance with random people all around certain server cluster. Meanwhile you chat in /g (chat room).

 

Even on full realm this world seems to be more dead than ever in WoW and both world PvP and instacned PvP is a terrible joke compared to pretty much every MMO.

[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

So you rather play LotRO with it's clunky combat mechanics? And Rift has one of the most bland fantasy worlds. Neither of those is nowhere near as fun to play as SWTOR. (never even played Aion due the expected grindiness of it)

 

 

 

Im not very glad that this game took clunky combat systems from Lotro and blatand world from Rift. So far this game has been as same as any console RPG except it looks crap and lacks functionality.

[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

Shrug, it only serves very small part of the playerbase. Most people don't need the combat log since they have already those BIG NUMBERS popping over the enemy's head, that's the important part apparently.

 

Only us who use parsers etc. want it for those purposes. Hell, I don't even need it unless there's some other way to consolidate the data than manually browse through log. So with hps/dps addon/parser yeah, I need it, otherwise it's pretty much useless.

 

Small? Im sure that most people playing this game excpected this game to have decent UI, combat logs, LFG tool, decent combat system and working AH. Most people playing this game has some WoW background and like it or not, they did most things right hence it had more players than next 9 games on top 10 MMORPG games combined. I had big expectations for this game and so far it hasnt delivered on any other part than on voice acting on the quests. Quests emself are same old stuff. Most im worried about that as it is, there cant be any complex end game content unless they overhaul whole UI, combat logs/meters and combat system.

[SWTOR is less than a month old, wow is 7 years old. Why do people compare?]

I like the game from leveling point of view but since this game cloned combat system and UI and quests from wow, they could have cloned em from 2011 WoW and not 2004. They promised to add combat logs, and they need to add targets target, macros and threat indicators to have any meaningful end game. So far there aint any decent end game content but in the future when they evolve from Molten Core level boss mechanics they need to address those issues.

[what is your #1 complaint about this game right at this moment?]

No combat logs, LFG tool, UI straight from 2003 that cant be modified, no target of a target, really crap raid frames. All in all i enjoy this game but keeping end game in mind, those need to get fixed. Oh, and if you want to PvP, this game is not for you, never seen so horrible PvP in any game.

[**December 16th Waves**]

14th and not in. I have the "code already used" problem. I hope that doesn't stop me from getting in when I get the invite. I contacted support and they said wait for the invite ... we'll see what happens!

 

Had same thing, it didnt effect any way.

[**December 16th Waves**]

Early morning at 14/12 i ordered the game and got in on the last wave. 1185 position in queue for Legions of Lettow, estimated wait time 75 mins.