Its just not class that needs balance. Its the whole pvp zone that needs to be balanced by removing the premade/PUG combined WZs.

The amount of players qutting the game or WZ is still increasing alot. The main reason is the unblanced pvp. Theres NO FUN atall in getting stomped by Premades with powerhealers. This game is dying and will not survive the Winter this time, unless the devs smarten up and increase the FUN in pvp. Theres a new MMO comming soon and they have real large scale pvp battles with over 100 players at same battlefield. Theres NO premades and seems to be alot of FUN!! Bye bye SWTOR. You devs are a joke, compared to whats comming.

The premades will just make the lifelenght of this game shorter. Theres a real nice MMO comming out soon, that doenst have this problem and if its not ixed by then...this game will die. There no one that likes to be stomped by premades, and its a mystery that the devs still havent fixed the big issue. But I Think they have realized its too late now, since theres so few playing this game.

Just remove hte premades from regular WZs and more ppl will stay.

Dont forget the premades that ruin ALL pvp WZs Theres so few playing the game now that you Always run into premades in WZs. Equal and fun WZs are so rare since so few plays this shttty game anymore.

This exsactly what Ive been advocating for so long. The premades has so many advantages over PUG so its even suprising that the Devs havent adressed this problem yet!! The premades has probably less skills than a experianced PUG player since the premades are addicted to super powerhealers backing them up so they dont even have to Think about thier heath at all. They have in fact never learnedto do that,.

Premades are still the major negative influance on SWTOR pvp. And i dont Think update 2.4 will do any differ at all. Premades are just in there to do easy kills PUG stomping. They dont know any other way tp play.

Premades need thier own WZ where they can face other premades. Running premade vs PUG is far too easy mode of the game and real boring for most normal ppl. So either we make all teams premade with a role call windown at start, like the PVE instances has, or we make special WZ for premades only.

Nobody is saying premades should be removed from game. They just need thier own habitat where thay can face other premades and get a real challange. Since theres NO challange at all facing PUG as premade. Its so easy even my Little son can handle it and even say its was boring easy. So for thier own sake, and for the wellbeing of the PUG we need to give premades thier own WZ.

U need to make the matches more balanced. Id suggest you remove the premades from regular WZ and make them want to go to ranked WZs. That way PUG vs PUG will be more intresting and so will ven premades ranked be.

As I said..its a HUGE problem and a fail to the whole game. BW brand is also being dragged in the dirt of this.

Arenas will be too hard for the premade runners who like easy kills. Nothing will change, it will too hard for the premade runner kids.

u can get ranked commz thru regular WZ too

I dont Think arenas will change a thing. Premade runners like PUG stomping = easy kills. Premades dont even want to fight an other premade team, its too much challange for them. They dont want pUG to have thier own queue either. They just want to stomp PUG, so why would they go to the arenas?

the heals are just out of the roof. Healers instaheal players from 1% Health to 100% in one sec. It shouldnt be possible.

matchmakeing formula is real hard to make. I mean one that really grades your pvp skills. Most of the matchmaeking Formulas are pure stats of your pvp record. And in SWTOR it wouldnt give a proper Picture since most pvp is in boxed-in instances where you get ganked over and over. It has very Little to do with your skills.

Maybe your right. Anyway, it seems BW has already left this game. Theres hardly ever any Devs commenting stuff here in the forums, its just us few players that visit the forums. Theres very small "expansions" comming. I bet the devs are already down 4 working on this Project. All others have moved on to the next game and nothing will ever chnage here until its shut down.

I suggest that they make two queues : 1 - Premade vs premade 2- PUG vs PUG easy as pie

Gulilds or no Guilds wont change anything with the premade unbalance issue. All pvpers know that the unbalnce is HUGE and removes most fun from the pvp.

Would be good with a debuff like the taunt attack (or whats it called?) an area debuff that removes about 50-70% of all heals for a limited time.

I do Group alo. But being a part of a premade team removes all challange from the game. Theres just no need for any skills at all sicne you have 3 healers in the rear healing u up 100% of the time. So i try to run PUG, but thats too unbalanced in the other end, theres no chance at all to win. This is clearly a huge problem.

Those thats are left are focused on pve, and maybe that will do for a while. Maybe the game is better off without any pvp at all since BW dont seem to have the competence to make a good pvp system?

After last time the game almost died the player ration was on top: about 250-270 players on prime time playing. Nowadays...all servers are on "standard", some go even on "low". Its rare to see any of the servers on "high" population. I compare with the amount of players on imperial / Republic station. At present we are on tops 150 players and its dropping fast. All old buddies i know have had the same reason to quit: Unblanced pvp. Too many premades in regular WZs. Ive never Heard any other reason. PVE seems pretty fun still, but is getting old...and fast. And i know that BW has got the new SW frenschise...so theyll let this game slip due to that they are busy with the comming games. So this game will prolly be pretty much the same until its shut down. I give this game to new year at tops, then its shut down if nothing Changes.

Ive been adviceing this for a loong time. The premades with thier powerhealers with tankguards are unbalacing the game epiclly. Nerf the heals so u can only get 1-2 heals per fight. Then youll see the premade players arent thatgood pvpers after all, since they can only battle with 2-3 healers healing them 100% all the time. They lack the skills of tactics and strategy, and are pretty brainless zombie kids wanting to have easy kills .

The unbalance is too big to handle in most WZs. It seems BW has failed epicly in getting the premades to go to ranked WZs. Instead they roam and ruin the experiance for all players in regular WZ. Its just an other big fail of BW. They will lose this game soon.