I have to agree with the posts so far. Getting absolutely nothing when spending 15 minutes or more getting stomped on by opponents better equipped that you does nothing to make me want to keep going. At least before I might have gotten wasted, but I got something for my time. Now it's hours and hours of beat downs for nothing. Getting rid of the 2 minute quit out for not enough players was a mistake also. 5 vs 8 is rather common and when there are more than a couple of war heroes on the opponents side it makes it very difficult to make any headway.