A Sorc that does nothing but spam force lightning is nothing more than a road bump. To be effective in PVP they really need to use Death Field +2-3 Dots and lightning. All stacked up they can kill a player in 2 full cycles if they have good gear. Compare that with a BH... Lets see... Tracer Missile > Tracer Missile >Tracer Missile... Wish I could do that on a Sorc.. Hit one button and blow people up with 2.5K hits every 1.5 seconds.... I promise you if Force Lightning did that much damage every 1.5 seconds People would have every right to scream and cry about it, but honestly if you want to sit there and call Sorc's talentless then I have to point out the above Tracer Missile spam Merc's that are Ohhh so skilled Topping damage charts at over 300K using NOTHING but one button. At least a Sorc has to hit more than one button to win a fight. Hey tell you what though. Ill trade my 3 second cast heal that lands for 2065 because of the 30% heal nerf for a lightning that does 5K damage every 3 seconds and then you can complain about Sorcs doing exactly what Merc's are already doing.

Bad idea. Period. Here is why. With the level spread on teams you would end up discouraging people from sticking around even when the odds are they will lose. Your "brilliant idea" would do nothing but hurt PVP across the board. Honestly If I came in and saw: 10 12 29 50 18 44 19 38 I would just leave and re-queue. As it is now Im willing to stuck it out and play the match. With the way rewards have already been nerfed once any more and It's simply not worth my time to stay in a match where the odds of losing are nearly 100% for no other reason than the level spread.

I know this is something that happens on all servers to both factions. You enter a Warzone and there they are. Everyone knows who they are on sight. As soon as the WZ starts they run over to the corner in Huttball and hide behind the goal line and just sit there the whole match screwing over their team and sucking away at XP the whole time. I have seen one guy more than any other and I know they have been reported OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, but still day after day there they are. One on my server named Scyros from Nadd's (I am putting this person's name here so a Dev can look at the player and see for themselves) has managed to level from 10 to 33 doing nothing but AFKing in WZ's. In one Aldaraan Match I marked him so I could find him and then trained Republic to him hoping he would get hit by the AFK debuff and booted, but no dice. There needs to be some kind of mechanic that finds these people so they can get booted from the WZ and banned from the game. If you take away the EXP cash and all that there is no reason for them to keep doing this, and it could be done. It wouldn't be that hard I mean 0 damage 0 healing 0 objectives..... I have been in 2 MMO's now where this Issue has happened, and I hope unlike the last one the issue is addressed in less than 8 months time. Players that do this should have their entire account banned. AFKing in a WZ is an exploit and If not addressed it shows players out there that its o.k. to do this and other exploits because BW wont do anything about it. If the Dev's want to make a point then they need to hit this and a few other issues with a hammer and make a point of stating "We have banned several accounts for exploiting today"

The thing I would ask for is a way to actually get rid of AFKers. The current mechanic will only kick someone if they stay in the base, but people will run out and hide somewhere on the map. Each map has several spots they can do this. We need some kind of Vote kick that gives a player a fixed amount of time to actually get involved in some action or get booted from the match and receive some kind of deserter buff that keeps them out of WZ's for a fair amount of time. This would make it so AFKing in a WZ nets you 0 xp and is no longer worth doing, but as it is a player can sit and do nothing and get from 1 to 50 just sitting there. They even get geared up along the way because of the comm's they get in the match. Some kind of mechanic needs to be put in place or this will become an epic issue.

Well Danny lets go down the list. This isn't a bash of flame by any means, but I do have disagree with you on a few points. It wouldn't matter if you could or could not. Each level of gear has level requirements as does the speeder. So even if you were rank 60 at level 40 you still can't get it. This honestly is to keep gear and equipment relevant to the challenges of each level. I am sure that there are people that don't like that, but honestly that's what you call a game mechanic. This is called game balancing. If you would like a game with no balancing try Rift. You can FOTM it up all you want there. So really your stating you are mad that you cant get rank 60 at level 40 even though it really would not matter if you were rank 200 at level 12 you still can't get gear over your level. So in summation your argument is baseless. Again it comes down to the same point. The PVP speeder has more than just rank requirements. It also has piloting requirements. Every form of 50 Gear is setup on the exact same system. Be it raid gear requiring that you get currency for that or PVP gear. PVE and PVP are setup exactly the same. So your argument is that PVP should be faster because that's how you would like it, but I am sure many PVE players wish they could buy a bag and have a chance at a random raid gear item like the PVPers get. Both PVP and PVE players have to reach 50 before either can begin working on higher tier armor. So why should either side be able to get gear faster than the other? On this point I agree. To be fair: The person that made the comment above really does not know what they are talking about. If they would like they can bring a green geared 50 against any well geared 50 and try and take an objective from them. After they have their face surgically reattached after it was melted off they will change their tune. Gear = power, and that's simply the bottom line. If you take two players of close to equal skill the player with the best gear will win more often, and thus will hold the objective.

And most of the thoughtless remarks come from July... go figure.... Different people have different perspectives on PVP. Myself I find the PVP here to be better than most other games I have played in a long while. Is it perfect? No, but at least it is a bit more balanced than many games I have seen. TOR isn't a Hard Core PVP game, but It does bring that in mixed with a fairly decent story line that gives you many options on how to spend time. There are many bugs and some classes that need a bit more tuning, but with any real luck that will be worked on. I mean the game has been out for a whole 7 days now.... The real issues is when people make up their mind that this will be Epic PVP, but then find they are in a game where you have to spend time to get gear and find the enemy. Myself I have managed to find a few spots where some really good fights have broken out. In Fact when one fight ended the Jedi ran off saying Aldaraan will always be part of the Republic (I guess a bit of RP there) My response was Yup and some day everyone in the Republic can have their own little piece of the planet to keep in their home.... (50 Dark side points self awarded) As far as lack of open world PVP its not that hard to find you just have to take some time and figure out where your enemy likes to hang out and spend a bit of time hunting them down like the cowardly Republic scum they are. They are there. I promise. Hiding under rocks and dressing like Jawa trying to avoid the Empire's might, but you can find them and deal with them...

Numbers yes, Levels are about the same. First 50 I saw was a Republic Trooper. And here I thought you post might have some actual thought put into it till I saw the above portion. I am fairly sure that BOTH sides have people that fit into this category, and per capita they come out to be about the same. Simply because one side wins more does not denote a lack of life. A better argument would be: Imperials storyline is more aggressive and thus Imperials developed a more aggressive play style. Perhaps if a few more Jedi stopped all this peace love and happiness crap they would do better, but why do that when you can QQ. Lies. It is true that as you gain levels you will contribute more, but even a lower level player can add to a WZ. Will you get killed a lot? Yes, but think of it this way. As you level against and go up against higher level players you have the chance to go against them and learn to be better than they are. You don't get good at something by facerolling easy targets. You get good by getting facerolled and fighting back, and when you catch yup to them in levels and start facerolling them just sit back just smile.

I am sorry, but Having seen posts like this for years from many games I can only laugh. The Republic and Empire classes are carbon copies of each other. The graphics are different, but the damage, cast time etc are all the same that being said you have either been saddled with scrubs, or perhaps are one your self. In either case on my server the Republic forces do very well and WZ's go back and forth all the time. You have several options: keep complaining that always helps... Just ask players from Rift. Get you and 3 of your friends and group queue and bring a bit of teamwork to your WZ's Having a voice chat client helps a lot as well.

The bug seems to be linked with wiping on the bosses. If you 1 shot the boss you will be able to loot the chest, but if you wipe you cant loot. First chest we wiped on and had the same issue. Jedi with 2 healers. last boss we 1 shot and could loot with out issue. Honestly for a game that has only been out officially for 6 days they have done very well, but a few things would be nice such as some form of acknowledgement of issues with encounters instead of getting the generic petition response of protocol droid blah blah sorry for your trouble ticket closed. It would be good to get a sticky of known issues started and have BW go through and address them.

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This post took entirely to much effort to be a true Decemberist.

lol now that's showing your Decemberist spirit!

Anyone feel a bit like Tiny Tim saying "Please sir can I get an invite"

Wait... This is early access?? Dang thought this was beta... should check my email more often...

Or perhaps we should try Decemberists: These are the players you are looking for... Dev's: Decemberists are the players we are looking for..... Decemberists: Send the Decemberist waves.... Dev's: we will send the Decemberist wave..... Dev's: eventually....

I wonder if we will have to outsource our toons to India because we wont get around to leveling them

The Decemberist manifesto ummmm well.... still thinking..... BBL checking email.

Dec 2 here and proud of it. Hoping to get in some time today and begin my reign of evil