Beauty of my gear is i dont switch anything for pve/pvp, it does superb in both. But as u can see in my pics i dont have a high amount of expertise, some would say thats terrible for pvp, but with the high amount of power and bonus damage, i personally like it better than a high amount of expertise. I'll take the 20k+ hp anyday.

Heres pics of my stats and some of my best pvp dps games with my best at 673k damage a few days ago. Can hit 21k hp with the 2nd campaign relic slotted, but i usually keep the matrix cube for raiding. http://s1067.photobucket.com/albums/u423/Cebruce4040/ All photos are after 1.2 btw

Well i really hate the 4 rage cost and the continuing rage cost every time it heals you. Just horrible imho. Please lower the cost of it by half. Fighting Lord Raxus i tested out how much it heals. I popped endure pain (26.5k hp) and then hit Enraged Defense so it would heal me more since my hp is higher and they both last 10 sec. So overall it healed me 9,738 hp. not bad, but i think i used it about 3 times, and i noticed it definetly sucked my rage and lowers dps. I think this power needs a lil tweaking to make it not such a negative. I dont get the minus threat mechanic. Also im very angry to see the huddle power gone along with the 4% endurance gain. Why did u get rid of the 4% end buff? As a tank we need more hp, it just proves that assassin tanks are better now, there self heal is way better and they have much higher shield/absorb chance than juggs because they actually get cool powers like dark ward. Also there HP is higher because they get a +endurance buff from skill trees. I dont get why they nerfed that from juggs??? im just left clueless as to why they are making it harder to tank now. Also sonic barrier is still pitiful and needs to be 2x as strong as it is currently. In raids its just about useless even with the 2nd bonus from gear, the extra 20% buff to it is nothing, needs to be like 100% buff.. Well these are things that irritate me about juggs currently.

Heres what im using for tank spec. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#101RMGzu0zZfMrMRhzzMZ0M.1 It gives 28% buff to smash which costs no rage and 3 sec faster c/d Gives 50% for sonic barrier The points in quake/battle cry can be switch based on your preference.

That you want the planet Corellia to die and never come back? Thx BW for the try, but its just too boring there. Theres just nothing to look at, it all looks the same, it takes 4ever to get anywhere there and your just grinding your teeth the whole time! Only reason doing dailys in Belsavis day after day after day is tolerable, is because at least there's life there, there's beautiful visuals to look at. It feels like a planet not a prison. I dread thinking that now i have to spend time there everyday now, omg thats gonna get old fast. I dunno if its even possible, but plz make a better planet to do dailys on. Whats your thoughts?

Go back and read the 1-7 of the reasons why i switched. Didnt change it for the animation...but it does more damage than takiing immortal tree and also just as well in tanking if not better. Any how exactly was i "madbro" in my comments to the OP. Just showing my experience with the jugg.

Omg BW, WTH! This is terrible!

Sonic barrier needs a buff imo. I had immortal, then tried veng hybrid...then got 4 columi for the 20% buff and went back to immortal to test it out...still didnt seem worth it to me. WITH IMMORTAL BUILD I... 1. Lost HP...forget exact numbers but it was anywhere from 500-1k i believe(don't quote me) 2. Lost ~4% damage redux...was at 50%..then got lowered to ~46% 3. Lost unstoppable...which is good in pvp as well 4. Lost huddle..which for me is fun to use in tanking and also protects that DPS next to u and yourself in the process. 5. Lost Impale...which is a cool animation imo compared to Backhand/Crushing Blow 6. Lost DPS...or at least seems like i did. 7. Lost a faster C/D on impale/force scream(which does bleeding dam) So needless to say i immediately switched back to 14/27/0

Currently have 14/27/0 build for tanking with gear set up for tanking. Anyone know if i got gear setup with crit/surge/power/acc if that would be a viable DPS jugg or would i have to go full 31(or more) in veng tree and drop some points in immortal? My build FYI http://http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#101dMG0uZhGrMMhzdMM.1

Anyone have any hookups in Nar Shaddaa where I can get my hands on some spice?

Thats the first thing I did when I got to Nar Shaddaa, I tried to find a casino that I could gamble in. Was sadly disapointed...

I think you're forgetting the Legacy System..although not currently implemented, it could allow for your lvl 50 to continue to gain xp that would go towards something and therfore making it worth the effort to play... However until that is revealed, its all speculation at this point.

Seeing as most were already taken...I was able to get the legacy name Outta-Control As a 50 jugg as my main and jumping around like a crazy person all the time and trying to chase and hold aggro i figured it fit nicely lol

Agree with the whole list! Hopefully they will address these issues, im staying optimistic since it is a newer game but these things should of been done from the start. On the camera issue i dont understand why it was changed in the patch also the new C/D on powers bugs me too but i know they are fixing that.

Oh i agree there are plenty of threads/comments about it...but i figure if we hammer this thought into there minds enough it'll get fixed...

I dont know if this issue is already in the works but im begging you BW, please fix the auto center camera. Playing my jugg is absolutely horrible with the camera making me run in the opposite direction from the enemies because the camera snaps back to center. Please make some options to change this... 8)

Yes this is now happening to me as well.

bump...and why wasnt this issue resolved in the last patch? still hating the snap back camera

Are you afraid of it?...

Few questions...what is this blade turning from the set bonus? As a jugg i dont have that...is that a maur skill? Also, is the added 20% to sonic barrier really noticable in end game content? Might switch my juggs tank build back to pick up sonic barrier again...thx

I quickly changed specs into 14/27/0. The immortal tree is just a joke imo. Backhand generates basically no threat and on a 1 min c/d is just horrible. Sonic barrier is meh, in higher content like raids/hm its not very good. Dark blood is not a good buff compared to vengeance side and 5 seconds longer on endure pain is also lame imo. I seem to be able to keep more rage in the new spec as well...

I wish this was Star Trek and Scottie could beam me up to the ship. It is annoying having to backtrack just to leave a planet. I also think the quick travel having instant respawn after entering a new planet is a good idea. I also dont get the orbital docking stations, the ship you take to the planet has to land on the ground, so why cant your ship?

I also have a 50 Jugg Immortal Spec, armor rating 124+ on all gear. Not any pvp gear, but they seem to definetly take a beating fast...i wish the shields were on a faster C/D or lasted longer. I'm not sure how a tank class can be so squishy at times, seems like they need a defensive buff or something. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but ppl can run circles around me in pvp. Since I'm mostly all melee, trying to catch up to them to attack is a pain(esp with the slow running), and even then my dps just sucks.

Well you must be playing a different game than the rest of us, I'm still having problems just trying to activate 90% of my attacks, still doing a double or even a triple take on most of them. This is so frustrating. Fyi: I also use 2 ATI Radeon 6800 series with CrossFire X. So i dont think its just Nvidia...Im sure its on there end. Ravage is the worst, actually doing the attack but it does 0 damage, so i have to click it again and same friggin thing..3 times a charm on that...so weak. Camera still irritating and still hating the new C/D. But w/e...taking a break from game until hopefully this gets some options to change it the way we the players who pay for this would like it.

Well I hate to say it but im glad other ppl understand my frustration and share my dislike of the new updates...As the old saying goes: Squeaky wheel gets the grease...so keep complaining lol...oh and thats a Bump!