qui gon jinn?

Obi wan held back on mustafar. he was a better duelist, he got the high ground. he didnt want to kill what he saw as his little brother. youd have reservations too. and his stupidity is still him, he would still have arrogance and stupidity against anyone else.

and as for kessels, he was beaten, he was saved from the last jedi by stormtroopers.

You still didnt tell me how GL says im wrong.

what room are you talking about? a room of padawans? while he had a fleet of storm troopers at his back? and why does GL say my argument doesn't matter? was starkiller not canon? anakin spent his youth fighting droids. and as stated before sidious didnt teach him ****. I used nothing but canon lore.

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Pretty much this ^

Obi wan beats Vader on mustafarr. obi wan lets vader kill him in new hope. This isnt a REVAN IS ALL POWERFUL fan boy post. but the fact remains, vader gets beat by a lot of people. at any point. to fight revan, who was a force user, not a slave to light or dark wouldnt be much of a contest imo. his apprentice (starkiller The force unleashed) beats him at the end of the story. sidious doesnt even really kill him, he sacrifices his life force to subdue the emperor. though i guess that part is up for debate.

Vader got beat by his old jedi master. Kenobi would, and did wipe the floor with anakin. Obi wan was old in IV, plus vader was more machine then man, on top of the fact, that obi wan knew he would continue to train once he became one with the force. so he didnt put up a fight. if he truly lost the match, there would have been a body. Vader would get demolished by revan. case closed. even his apprentice puts the beats on him. Vader is over rated.

it is the beginning of a game, not even an expansion. rest assured, these "recipes" will be added too.

Do you know what level those models where? what content they were being shown at? its impossible to know whats entirely in the game at this point. not to mention expansions and such. i cant comment on the toggle, as i too would have enjoyed the option. but you cant hold it against them for having certain quarks and such. wow didnt get an appearance tab till last month. DCUO did do a great job on styles, but game play, environment and many other aspects are lacking. its an mmo in its infancy, thats performing at levels surpassing others. be patent, if in three months we cant find you a hoodless/down piece somewhere, ill eat my hood.

Can i ask, who here is at end game? or even past level 35 for that matter? gear is something to be achieved in an mmo. Complain about aesthetics later on, in end game when content has been explored. don't expect all your goodies right out the door. this is an MMO. go work for it.

I have been silently waiting in the shadows of this thread. Though i never posted, i feel connected to you all. with that said 12.15.2011 Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Early Game Access: Ready to play 11.29.2011 Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Early Game Access: Ready to patch 11.29.2011 Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Digital Standard Edition Pre-Order May the force be with you all.