Im still wondering why it hasnt returned yet - afaik it was a huge success and they should keep riding that wave. But i guess they will react when the subs go down again, and they will.

as it was now, it should be bound to subscribing - that would be best for business.

as i said, its already easy - it just takes time. killing 30 identical monsters isnt fun, finishing the IA story is. im pretty sure that the 12X audience does not want instant 60, but i can only speak for myself - i want to complete all class stories, without skipping the dialogue. good night

i dont get the crafting stuff.. because its easier at max? has nothing to do with 12X.. grinding OPs and FPs is called "endgame", its been this way for years, it becomes obsolete with new expansions.. i get it, you worked hard, now you want anyone else to have it as hard as you had it.. you can be that, but with endgame stuff, clear the latest and hardest OPs/FPs.. but please stop beeing selfish about irrelevant stuff, beeing lvl 50 or 55 with maxed professions is nothing to brag about.

this game is already easy, and leveling a massive timesink (+not as fun as it could be, but that is subjective) remove the grind and timesink from irrelevant content with bringing 12X back

where did i say that my 40 bucks are giving me any rights? we are discussing things.. i bought the CE and 2 months gametime, the game wasnt worth my time back then, now i came back to do the thing i enjoyed, playing the class story. btw, this isnt about "winning", theres just no argument for "12X should not return". Not for the playerbase that wants to play the quality content (+ lets put an option to disable it in) and not for bioware, because it brings them money. SoR+sub required

welcome to 2014, and you cant go back anymore. Games need to be fun right from the get go, introduction too long? leveling boring? 2 dungeons and no loot? ..

again, there is no proof for that, the big MMO is incredible healthy atm 1-55 is outdated content, nobody cares how OP you are and if it only takes 8 hrs.

SoR+60day playtime

you know, SWTOR could become that niche thing, were everyhing is a grind, takes long hours and is hard.. but in the end it would go down because thats not what the majority wants anymore.

better someone who is here for a month and pays 40 bucks, than not here at all... you know, those guys also keep this game alive and running

yeah, a massive waste of time!

first, i said "filler", bcuz someone claimed that more stuff to do while leveling would be great. second, getting people up to the new content is still relevant, so 12X has its place till 55. You know, the other MMO company, the big one, nerfed their old content into the ground - vanilla leveling took me 14 days /played, now its possible in 1-2 days. I guess they already have their 12X .. but not only on weekends, all the time!

i guess the 12X attracted lots of ppl, they invested 40 bucks, so thats great for bioware. if they enjoy the game and stay, its a win-win, if they leave, they still payed for it. nobody gets hurt, its alright. im pretty sure theres no study behind your claim, that ppl consume fast and leave. i bought the collectors at release, played for 2 months, hated the bonusquests (kill 20, 25, 30.. ), this engine and left. now im back, enjoyed the 12X and would lvl some more characters - but i wont, until 12X returns (without it, its a waste of my time). and you are correct, i like the 12X leveling way more than engame, playing 8 stories takes 120hrs(15per class)?, double that for every arch, remember that ppl work and sleep and you have yourself a sub for some months. better than no sub at all.

nobody wants "filler", we want QUALITY content, the class story has quality. the reason 12X brought many peoples back, is because they had FUN, no need to do any bonusquests to kill 30 of this and that.. focus on the amazing story. MMOs in 2014 dont need grind and boring fillerstuff - thats back in the 90s, leave it there. Let ppl play the way they want, i want 12X xp, im fine if the option to disable it is there - i would never use it, but its none of my business. Dont be so mad and make it hard for the ppl that want to focus on the core story - and btw, noone cares about 1-55 content now that lvl 60 is here. its like "please dont make 1-60 in WoW easier, because its serious business.."