I'd like to see a game try to launch while revamping itself during development everytime WoW came out with a patch.

However, in the context of 'Good' it is based on opinion. WoW is a "good" game to you. To another it's "bad" No one needs a class on ethics to know that. Your gameplay requirements are also subjective. Your gameplay requirements might not meet another persons gameplay requirements. That is why there are games such as "Hello Kitty Online" and "Farmville." Those particular games meet those whom play its gameplay requirements. And yes, the comparison of ToR to WoW at launch is appropriate. However, if you truly wanted to be not biased or subjective, you would've brought up the flaws in WoW, which were ironically neglected completely from your posts.

They have a dedicated thread for it?

You're right. There weren't/it wasn't. Just falling threw the ground characters not being able to play for 24 hours after that invisible mobs warping graphical glitches server rollbacks servers crashing servers restarting quests breaking But hey, no queues!

Tattoinne would like a chat with you...

Actually it was.

I personally enjoyed the self entitlement. Like the guild was Fires of Heaven, and he is the next Raph Koster.

Unfortunately, MMOs are not cars. So your comparison is irrelevant and unintelligent. You might as well compare sandwiches to cars. Not to mention, a life is at stake when it comes to cars. They are not essentially bought for enjoyment. And neither are they $60. Pong is not an MMO either. Please keeping bringing up irrelevant comparisons. They are hilarious, and show true ignorance. (Btw, "good" is based on opinion, or in certain cases moral, beliefs. It is subjective) Thanks for stopping by!

Actually the argument holds plenty of water. If you want a valid and rational comparison, it would be WoW Launch Day vs ToR Launch Day, or RIFT Launch Day vs ToR Launch Day. You're trying to compare over 5 years of content updates, and bug fixes, to a game that's been out for 1 day (excluding development, and beta of both games). And it's quite obvious, the OP never played WoW on launch day. It makes ToR queues seem minor.

They already have a thread dedicated to this?

People who didn't preorder disagree with you

Your previous argument. Buy a pet from Blizzard store... which do the exact same thing... nothing.

Two games, One has been out a day. The other for 6 years. /thread

Sounds like your video card is either overheating or fried. Is the screen just black?

Neither of which had 1.5 million preorders and/or players.

Pokemon, Pandas and Recycled content... OH MY!

I'd love to see your Advanced Network Infrastructure Degree

Ever try to fly through Jita? I'd rather have a queue.

http://www.kruxor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/WoWwtfqueue.jpg

I guess Blizzard screwed up too. I mean... look how that game went down in flames.

If you don't think queues are acceptable... on launch day. I'd suggest stop buying MMOs, and expecting to play.... on launch day. It's like taking a pizza out of the oven, biting into it, then ************ that it burned your mouth.