If you preordered last week under the advertising of 'up to 5 days early access', then there MUST be a chance, however slim, of getting the full 5 days. If 5 days is impossible due to chronological access based on code redemption, then it shouldn't be advertised

I'm interested if that's what they're still advertising. "UP TO 5 DAYS" That means that some people who order today have to be allocated the full 5 days. Not all people, but some people. In the same way as a 'sale' advertising 'UP TO 75% OFF', not everything in the store has to be 75% off, but in order to validate the claim, there have to be at least some items with that reduction. With EGA in a FCFS staggered access rollout, it would appear to be impossible for anyone ordering today to get the full 5 days. The SW:TOR page T&Cs have been updated to include the 7 day span based upon when the preorder code was applied, but it would seem secondary vendors are advertising that it's still possible to get 'up to 5 days' if you ordered today. Unless everyone who preordered gets in today, they're advertising something that Bioware isn't permitting because people who ordered most recently have absolutely no chance of getting the full 5 days. 'up to' means 5 is the max. It may be less than that, but it may also be the full 5 days. Currently that is not the case

They price it alongside comparative products. Stuff is more expensive over here, so they charge more over here, irrespective of taxes or shipping. They also charge as much as they think the local market can tollerrate. It's the same reason Sky change 10 times as much for their sports channels in the UK as they do for the same channels elsewhere in europe.

So what you're saying is, people who preordered the game earliest, get into the game first? So it's kinda like a queue then? Where people who log on first get onto the server first, and the rest are left in a queue where the first to join the queue get in first? So anyone not in the game yet is still in the queue. A queue that doesn't indicate how long it is. A queue that's measured in days rather than minutes or even hours And the launch is so smooth because there are 'no queues'? Seems to me there are the longest queues in MMO history, just that you're watching your email account rather than a server select to find out when your turn in the queue comes. Kinda like standing in a line outside a venue for a gig for hours and hours, then when security lets you into the venue you can hand your tickets in at the turnstyles without any delay.

Dunno what servers you were playing on during the 'stress test' but I had only one servercrash the entire time. Had to queue a few times, once for 45mins, but that was the only time over the usual 5-10mins. Bad server launch: OMG most people can't play because of the queues stopping people getting onto the servers! Good server launch: OMG most people can't play because of the staggered access stopping people getting onto the servers! The masterstroke is that people wanting to play but being unable to are spamming the forum, their email accounts, even the launcher instead of the server select screen. In a couple of months we'll be able to see more clearly whether the staggering has created more stable server populations. That's the primary reason behind the staggering, as opposed to simply bringing more and more servers online as required

Are the VIP vendors for CE or the Security vendors for those using a security key active yet? If so, can anyone with access outline what is available on them? Just cosmetic stuff, or items that have an actual affect on gameplay?

Hey, it's something to do, lol

They made that clear that pre-order code redemption date would allocate your position in a staggered EGA launch on July 21st (or earlier) did they? Or was it later that they actually detailed the specifics of how EGA would be handled? In which case, if you wanted to be first in line, the only option to you would be to break into CERN, fiddle with the LHC a bit, make yourself a time machine and then preorder. Oh, and while you're preordering, place a few bets so you can buy a new gaming rig when you get back ^^

I don't either. I search using google, restricting the search to this specific site, but it's not ideal

I also wish I knew if/when server transfers would be available too. I'm sure they will be eventually, but it'll have a bearing on whether I 'go it alone' or not for the levelling up process.

The term 'early access' only has relevence to an MMOer when it relates to other people on the server. When the player actually starts playing the game is irrelevent. Many MMOers would pay to get a head start on their fellow MMOers, but very few would pay to move a global start date a few days. We can adjust around a start date, whenever it is, and focus on that date. Most of us are experienced enough at MMO launches to know 'EGA' or 'Headstarts' will be full these days. They're not so much a head start now, more a 'don't get left behind' My 'early access' is now 'several days LATER' than the rest of a 'full' server. My 'early access' is now serveral days later than friends and guildies. Many of those people playing today would've been equally annoyed if others had been playing for a week already, even if they are playing now. Whether they want to admit it or not, playing from the very START of a MMO is exciting - forging new ground, treading virgin snow, seeing and doing things noone has seen or done before in a world that will be around for years to come. Now the choice will be whether to join a full server with people L20, L30+ already, or pick a brand new clean server. Friends, and several guilds I had invites to, are spread across various servers but all thoughts of moving as a unit through content is out of the window now. I prefer to lead from the front, so joining at L1 when those I run with are L20+ really doesn't appeal to me. I'm not QQing. I'll either join an 'old' server, or pick a brand new one. My choice, and I'll make it based on the pros and cons. Mostly depends on the queues when I get in. I just wanted to explain to the fanbios why 'it says 'up to'!' or 'seven days is more than five!' doesn't make much difference to us, no matter how many times you yell it in our faces