I agree with this statement. I was an Enhance Shammy In charge of the interrupts on the void walker guys, but the core of the fight is dependent on the dps doing its job to a T with no mess ups.

Vanilla wow was cake to the raids of today kiddo.

Im not going to Lie I am an elitist and you can tell. I Play hard to be the best I can be and I take pride and have fun doing it.

Once again did you clear this on heroic before it was nerfed? The whole last phase is a dps burn before the entire raid implodes. Our first five time killing the boss we had 2 people alive left in the raid. Its was not a cake walk otherwise they wouldnt have cut the difficulty by 75% and even after they did that most guilds cant clear it.

Rift has one, Aion raids are based off of zerging. As for Aoc I cant say quit after level 20. Anyways all those games were utter failures for competitive raiders.

Really? You didnt have to burn the adds huh? Or didnt have to burn Cho'gall before he enraged? Im talking pre nerf not after when anyone could kill him. In fact most guild had to dump there third healer in favor of dps just to have a shot of killing him in time. Most guilds issue with the fight was having enough healing with 2 healers and enough dps. Also the whole last phase is a dps burn before the who raid implodes.

Really name one. Most games have raid content most players can finish and the raids are never nerfed. In wow a few thousand players are lucky enough to clear it before the first round of nerfs make it cake.

Enrage mechanics are in raids in this game. Which means dps race.

Yeah thats why on;y a couple 1000 players were able to clear that fight on heroic before it was nerfed.

I still have yet to see one of these anti dps meter posters explain Cho'gall's fight in wow which I considered easy.

Vanilla raid were cake compared to tbc and to be honest most mechanics in the TBC raids were not in vanilla. Also only 5% of all players in wow saw the top 2 raids in TBC and I doubt you are one of them. Im not even one of them.

Is it our job to carry your sub par playing through a raid?

Did somebody say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker]?

Tell me you understand this video and whats needed to beat the boss and I will let that stupid remark slide.

Funny because Im pretty sure to crunch the numbers in order to go to the moon, most people wouldnt be able to do that today. In fact I would guess to say those giant computers that nasa had back than did most of the math seeing as it was fool proof as the human brain is not. In fact I would guess to say not one astronaught on board would have been able to do that math.

For everyone who thinks they know raiding. Watch this pre nerf video of Cho'gall heroic which I downed and tell me you 100% understand the fight and whats going on.

Ding! ding! ding! This is 100% correct. Most games that had raids before wow were more stand here, avoid this, dispel that, rez, repeat. Most the time you had not time limit to kill a boss. Swtor has enrage mechanic in the game now. So DPS meters are important.

Once again most MMO's in early days didnt need elite dps or even good dps. They were not dps based and didnt have enrage timers. Point invalid.

Saitada I raided in EQ It was more zerg the boss and stand here or stand there, than zerg some more. EQ raiding was easy in the day compared to raiding in wow right now. Not trying to be mean, but those are facts. Most fights in early eq didnt require elite dps.

Arent you so cool for blasting people who played some of the hardest pve ever invented the first few months its out before it gets nerfed. You feel big man. Let me guess you were never able to down a boss in the first month it was out. Stop being a tool. Why dont you go play some guild wars because thats obviously the skill level your at. Click to attack and have a bunch of heroes clear stuff for you.

This ^^^^^^

I get it and I dont really want to be mean here. Seeing people say go back to Wow gets old. Especially when Wow's competitive raiding scene is actually seen as an esport and is some of the hardest content ever seen in raids before when it first comes out. People think wow is for kids, but I would guess to say none of the people saying "go back to wow" actually ever cleared any boss the first month it was out in Wow.

Guilds who are tops in the world in Wow aka paragon use any tool available to them to down bosses. Some people play games for the challenge of being the best at an cost that's not exploiting. That's how some people have fun. I am one of those people I strive to be the best at what I do.

You realize in rift people had 3rd party parsers from day one that ran out of game right as they do for swtor right now. Just because a game dosent allow mods dosent mean people dont have 3rd party apps running.

Its not a crutch, actually its far from it. It allows you to do thing faster than sitting there for hours paying constantly to respec. It also allows you to find out who is actually at fault when everything breaks down. It prevents the blame game in guilds and grps and lessens drama.