I've seen this question come up multiple times, however I too am curious if there is at all going to be any implimentation of a more comprehensive character creation system? I find the current options are very limiting and does not allow me to explore my full creativity in designing an appearance for a character which I can be proud of. Also will there be an implimentation of a makeover vendor or even the option of learning a tradeskill allowing other players to apply agreed changes to a character's appearance?

Anyone who is trying to contact me about the group, feel free to go to my forum, which sucks, but it does the job. I already have a group put together, however if more would like to do the same, I'd be happy to help. The link in my post above will take you there. I find this is far easier than trying to send messages on this forum, it's very user unfriendly to me.

Thank you for the input, criticisms which I'm certain are meant as constructive points since there really didn't seem like too much flaming on the topic and I appreciate that. Anyhow those of you who are interested in this, I've contacted those I'm aware of by whatever means I've had available and for those who are further interested I have acquired a free message board in order to better organize this and to limit the nightmare of logistics to a lesser degree. Click here to continue, serious inquiries only please. I've only just created it so it's very bare currently.

I probably should have just put this into the above reply, but yes logistics are usually tough and I'm willing to try and make it work, even if it only happens once a week, I'd prefer more, but I'll take what I can get.

I mean everything; standard missions, class missions (which are single person but entire groups can watch. Which is why I suggested a preference to all being different professions), you name it, like a D&D pencil and paper group would in a campaign, except in an MMO environment. Thank you very much for the invite to check out your guild.

That is find a group of people to run through the content from start to finish with. My thought on doing this would be to get three others, who preferably would play all different professions obviously in the same faction, this way we could all experience the progressions of each storyline as a group. Also only leveling and running through content when all the members are around, none of this "oh sorry I out leveled you and now you have to catch up and I don't feel like waiting." For those of you familiar with playing pencil and paper role playing games, it would be like getting together with friends and running through a campaign together at designated times that work for all members. There's really not much else I can type here to further my point, it's all right there and this is my attempt to get over my TOR blahs cause I really want to enjoy the game, but doing it alone is a waste to me, I have other games for that. I currently play on Lord Ardaas, however for this I'm willing to change servers if necessary. Heck if other people want to try and forge "adventuring groups" through here, go for it. I'd love to help bring a positive impact on the gaming experience of others.

I made an attempt to read all the replies before posting, however I became bored with all the same points, counter-points, attacks, blocks and so forth. As much as I would love to put SWG on a pedestal, I really can't. Although the game had some fantastic features; 32 professions, 250 (maybe 255) skill points and the freedom to place them where ever your heart desired, The option to get right into combat, crafting or the social aspect, something which very few games ever take into consideration and for this particular genre it's foolish not to. Before I type off on a tangent about this I will continue to illustrate my personal OPINION, which is neither right or wrong. Back to key points in favour of SWG; The option to set up macros, at least for entertaining professions, as this allowed for dancers, musicians and the like to actually be social and not just a bot, however sadly it lead to botting and ultimately afk entertainers, making this point as negative as it is positive, but that is to be expected when dealing with humans, we naturally seek to gain the greatest advantage with the least effort. Anyhow crafting in SWG was just insane, it allowed crafters to actually provide a viable service which parallels what businesses do in real life and it not being all about looting, after all why the heck would a Womp Rat be carrying a sniper rifle? Yes I know that's stretching it, but the point remains, during the golden and silver age of SWG crafting, player crafted gear was the stuff to have, although there was a point where crafted gear was crap compared to drops and threatened to end crafting or so it may have looked. Entertaining was a new and personally a brilliant aspect added to the game and like crafters they too went into a dark age where they were virtually useless but in the beginning they were the ones to see to remove wounds and fatigue and eventually near the end they became more like buff bots and occasionally used for fatigue in the planetary city battlefields during the construction stage. On top of this the ability to customize appearances was very nice, not nearly as nice as oh CoH/CoV or Champions Online, but for Star Wars it was damn nice, no presets only and later you could get your appearance changed by another player called an image designer, who did just that, change your image, at least on a physical level, although in the beginning they were also required in order to mitigate HAM bars, no I don't mean pork and no I don't have a halal option for you either. Moving on, I loved the space content, free roaming in space is just awesome and blowing up Rebs or in my case getting blown up by reb players was quite fun, once in a while. Anyhow that's what was good about SWG and about all I really miss from it. Now for The Old Republic. It's a very pretty game, the environments are lush, sometimes a bit too small, however leaves room for expansion, which is both smart and understandable from my point of view. The storylines I've run through thus far have been at least good quality, however I feel it's too single player oriented and there's not much multiplayer incentive outside of the social point system, some heroics and flash points. Animations for abilities and attacks are quite awesome and in some instances hilarious, like dirty kick, I absolutely love that move and wish SWG had that one for the smuggler low blow attack. Voice acting, that is just awesome, I love it and it makes the game very emersive, however I'd honestly rather read text than have preset options for character creation, no option to change appearance, sith corruption doesn't count so forget that arguement, and no appearance slots so I don't look like I'm a bounty hunter or republic trooper in piece-mail. I'd really like more to compare however being a game only a couple months old compared to several years of development, it makes it difficult, so I guess in a way, that is a point for TOR, it has a lot of room to grow and I hope it grows out of this damn tank/dps/healer crap, cause honestly I think giving people more room to develop their characters is infinitely better than holding their hands down a rocky path. So in conclusion do I miss SWG? Only the mentioned elements. Am I content with TOR? No, but I am hopeful that perhaps some good changes will occur. Do I want SWG back? No it's dead like Elvis let it stay dead, but I think it's important to learn from what SWG did right and wrong. Will I continue to play TOR? Maybe, depends on which direction the game goes. If TOR continues down the path of Trinity based MMORPGs with little to no character customization, probably not I'll get the same awesome story telling in Mass Effect 3. If it opens up and adds more options to customize my character so I'm not playing a cookie cutter style character, then yes I will likely play more. Also just being able to mess with my appearance would be more than enough for me or the option to play a social character like an entertainer and actually progress through that as a profession and not just a role play element, would equally be awesome and a ton of clothing options! A good socialite has to look good always, despite the occasion. Sorry about the long post and I'm sure most will shun me for this as it is to be expected, after all whenever every butthole has an opinion the area is bound to be filled with crap. Again my opinion, my little addition to the mountain of crap.

Flygirl Xae I just threw three letters together.