So you were in a time flagged EQ guild? Somehow I doubt it, what else you got.

Never had the farmed gear and or read any tactics, we were a pretty casual guild and just slower at getting to them, we learned from wiping and picking ourselves up and doing them again. EQ raids were harder because they were designed harder, WOW intentionally made everything easier. Nothing in WOW had you tank mez 6 uber elite mobs it takes a raid of 75 to kill while also having 6 others ones have to be kited around by druids bards and rangers because you cannot kill them until you kill the 6 ones being tank mezzed by a single group, and you could not kill any of the 6 as they all had to be killed within a minute of each other or they all re-spawned. And that was just to get the main boss to spawn. Do your self a favor and look up time flagging in EQ and what was necessary to get it. Spare me the WOW is hard crap only people who never played EQ would ever compare WOW raiding to EQ raiding, it was one of the downfalls of EQ and blessings of WOW how they made raiding so much easier. So in short do not talk about things you have no clue about.

The only point I was making is dps meters do not let you beat high end content, but yes I did revel in my old EQ time flagged glory days was a pita and nothing in WOW was that difficult. Because rightfully so they didn't want it to be because they wanted to and did make it easier to keep a much higher player base than EQ ever had and good for them.

Never said was in a top guild in WOW said I did the hardmode heroics not before the next ones came out but only because I was burnt on top end raiding. Not really big on reading comprehension are you. I was however in a top raiding guild in EQ, you know the have to play at least 40 hours a week kind.

I see your rebuttal is newer is harder cause you said so and the mythical people you talked to told you so....

Wrong WOW raids are a joke compared to end game EQ, see I didn't just talk to people I have done both so spare me your made up I talked to people lies. But please feel free to tell me what the secret to beating the earth event was, you know one of the ones not a single WOW raid even measures up to and that was just to get time flagged.....

Do you have any clue how many people were actually time flagged? its a lot less than the 5% number so do not talk about things you obviously have no clue about. If you want to talk hard then tell me what was the secret to beating the ring of earth event...

No joke EQ raids were ten times harder than anything WOW ever produced, if you played in a time flagged guild you would know this, in fact had you just done the events to get time flagged you would know. And yes we did them without dps meters. So the jokes on you, WOW made raids so easy a monkey could do them and your defense is in WOW dps meters told you who was good, no they didn't. They are not necessary in any way shape or form, only for baddies who want to thump their chest and proclaim how they are good. You would never make it through the ring of earth event so spare me the WOW raids were hard defense it holds no water thanks.