So you don't take part in one entire facet of the game, PVP. So what are you left with a raid with 4 bosses that is cleared in a few hours. 5-6 more dailies. What else? What else are you really left with that 1.2 brought with it................ An extremely convulted and contorted new crafting system. A Role Playing tool in Legacy? Is that really and truly it?

I want to love this game, is )*!%) Star Wars man. But more dailies, more dailies, grinding out more dailies, for 6 days for 1 piece of loot, then grinding out dailies, more dailies more dailies, Clearing the raids in 1 day, is the exact reason, why 2 guilds ive been in, all the members quit playing.

I won't get into the UI debate, because IMO i think its a great addition, but the more and more i think about 1.2, the more and more i realize, there is NOT a lot of new content. 1 new warzone 1 new Op(4 bosses) Lots of fluff stuff that actually has zero uses outside of solo/RP. Can't be used in PVP, Ops, Flashpoints (Entire legacy system) Lots of Credit Sinks that most people will never be able to experience(didn't the guild summit point out, how poor people really are?) A new crafting system, that would leave even the most advanced puzzle solver perplexed. Can do it with this, not that, have a chance with the post 1.2 stuff, can't do it with pre 1.2. OMG HEADACHE.

I couldn't agree more. Haven't I invested enough time by reaching legacy level 20, and now i have to invest more time to get a silly amount of gold. Grinds grinds grinds is not my thing. This reminds of the person who buys the Hybrid Vehicle. The price they spend on getting a Hybrid will never be recouped in the cost of gas savings, throughout the life of the vehicle. The thousands and thousands of credits you repay, for say a Repair droid on your ship....you know what. I stop at one of the 50,000 vendors that can repair my stuff.

\ This guy has the right of it, you can never really see anything while spamming just a dark layout of all abilities, regardless of be useable or not.

I rarely post on these forums, so it must be important for me to do it. For players who are spammers of their abilities, this new system is just plain frustrating. I think the consensus is that the animations/flashes, really prevent anything from being visible. Because when you spam abilities the others go dark, and the ones on CD are just a shade darker, so it really looks like everything is on CD and its hard to determine what is really up. Extremely frustrating design. At least they said they are looking at it.

If the WOW Devs don't do something about Mages, aka Fire Mages, soon. Thats exactly the kind of thing that will make more people spend time in TOR, than WOW. For 5+years i've lived and loved WOW. But with the way things are now, i find myself only logging onto raid. I still enjoy that part of the game at least. The rest of my time will be spent in TOR.