To the comment directly above, ey didn't fail any englsh course, ey'm not goin anywhere unless ey want to, ey'll leave Harb when ey get an ambassadr hoverchair ey made a deal w/ someon for ey'm still waiting to come on, haven't seen em in a wek, if anyone has one PM/whispr/mail will offer same deal for it. Ey can typ w/ impeccable grammr/speln, but again, if yew read mey "j.m.d" tell-all piece in the suggest box part of gen discuss (somehow it got moved there proby cause of the first sentenc in it), ey explain ey'm not troln or tryn to anoy anyone w/ mey mispelns and ey only mispel certain, select words ey feel uncomfortable typn out correctly, for various reasons most of which r listed in that thread, dependant on the word in question, and will not reiterate here n b moked for long posts again here, this is a strictly lfg thread (typos do happen tho, some words wjhere some words were meant to b spelt ryt) To the comment two posts above, thx for yr concern n suggestion, but ey will still go against the grain and do this, as ey believe it IS possible and believe more peopl should get into it to, form grps/join grps that are not of 1 gild only, that r of multiple gilds and/or no gilded peopl, or a combo of both, do top-tier content wrld and servr first, it's all about coordination and communication and skill, not so much all grp membrs having the same gild tag in their nameplates, srsly, it also benefits the community as a whole more to p-u-g, as if evrything is kept in tight knit gild grps, they will continue to b atop the heap while evryone else toils below and ey don't wanna toil below nor allow others who could b atop too and r nice and may deserve to b up there to do so either, just because they/mself are/am not in that/a gild or pRse or filled out or failed some 'application' buls- know? They're all in good taste mey grping and typn ways.

Nice suggestions regarding making leap do-able from any distance lower then the minimum, kinda how they made sabr throw change if one has the set req. for that to happen. Would be cool, but not much in the way of something that would get r spec into top-tier ops, cool addition in general tho. Could the poster 2 above elaborate more on this trainer ability they suggested? This a variation of how an offensive guard may work or something else? Agree something like inspir for r spec would be rly great, thinkin' of a op-wide energy replenish, would b cool.

Yew needa go bak to yr bridge.

Sup. Am LTB an ambassadr hovrchair (blu one), ey made a deal w/ someon who has several to sell but have yet to c em on Harb in past wek and won't leave the servr for orig. servr till ey get one, ey still have the credits ey was gunna pay em for it, same amount, won't lowball yew if one has one to sell, if have one plz PM/whispr/mail mself. EDIT: K, this persn am LF's name is falln-one, there's an 'e' before the 'n' and after the last 'l' in falln, if someon could get this persn to read their mail and COD the chair they have to mself finally that'd be great, same amount as discusses or just contact w/ refresh amount if don't remember it. However, if someon has the chair and is willin to talk plz feel free to contact, as soonr get the chair soonr can leave this servr take invenotry n tend to alts on other servr. This is the reel mself reminding YEW! (points n wags fingr) to support yr local prowresln and vid rental stores and thx for readn!

Ey did come here to contribute on thsi thread and have! This all started when ey saw someon, what ey perceived to be, rude and off-topic and simpyl said 'lez tryn get bak on topic' and continued w/ mey thing, then that persn had to come bak n start and it all went dwnhill from there. And what 'antics' in chat r yew referring to? Freekn voicin mey displeasur, and others' mind yew, that rankd wzones bring someon in when the channel pop is done channeling, so if they've tabbed out they, and their team, is screwed, and it's not like fp/op queues, where one is simply taken off queue if not entered? Are the 'antics' defending mself from insultn/trolish comments by meen peopl and/or throwin it right bak at em (they like to throw it they can't take it? Liv in a glas hous much?). B nice... Back on topic, ey'd like to think and remind everyone that w/e changes may occur w/ this spec, they will occur w/ Veng spec on Empir side as well and likely if there's a major change, like forms being tied to an 'anchor/signature' ability, then all other specs/builds in-gam will likely get some typ of similar mechanic, w/ JC forms doing the same, cells/canisters, etc., or at least a good chance there will b wholesale change w/ some of r ideas suggested, as to balance it out, and face it, there won't be an entire update for 1 spec, r spec, and most likely w/ 2.5 coming so soon and no word on changes to what's coming w/ that update, it'll be aways off, as they'll need to work on the other builds' changes to put in the 'rdy-to-update' pile w/ r's. Yes, sucs it'll b awhile for good/cool major changes, like an that, BUT that doesn't mean a possible small pach may be implemented w/ some sort of increase to dmg across several abilities of several clases, and or 1 small ability be added maybe the offensive grd, to r build, and likely offensive Vgrds and Shados, but those implementations may STILL be a ways off, just not as far as the others, as ALL will need to be gren-litd and tsted out in-hous and/or on the public servr before being officially in. So to recap, with that all in mind, rly the only posts added to this thread should be dev responses sayin it's been lookd at and may be workd on sometime, maybe if someon thinks of a cool idea as well, but w/ 2.5 coming those should probly b added to another thread, not of 2.5 changes, and instead a suggestion box thread.

Uh, not sure how to take the 10/10 comment..., if positive, cool, thx, if neg., mey response should already be known... The comment w/ the link above...hol-ee-sh-...?

Rly? Watr and go cross? Hard to believe that. If so, then just don't read, if have nothin nice ot say don't say it, if can't read a post in chat or here, either whispr politely for clarification or ignor it. Tho get the feeling yr not one of the trols when yew say that as yew claim, so will re-elaborate a bit on mey speln. Some words ey simply prefer not to spel out correctly, or completely correctly for various reasons dependant on the word in question. Yes ey CAN typ completely grammaticly correct, but certain, select, few words ey feel uncomfortbale typn out so won't, ey'm not obligated to do so, however some of those words ey may feel r needed to structure a sentenc correctly so ey compromise w/ mself by mispeln em, so as long as the POINT gets across, if ey did it w/o typn that word, cool. Words ey DO spel correctly, as yew noticed ey do spel some words. most words even, correctly, ey have no prob. with. Could yew list some words that r srsly given yew a rly hard time ey could make a key for? Ey made one before when ey got more in-depth in mey ol' "j.m.d" thread under suggest box in gen discuss concerning the various reasons and listing 'em.

What!? Srsly tho, if any of this is meant in neg. taste to mself, yr troln only drives mself more so, ey won't stop till ey stick it to the trols. Will tryn be back by tomorow btw, and got a crate or two unbinding. Mai placeholdr for pre-order, first come first serve. Usual rate.

See it's yew trols troln mself that continues to drive mself to b bettr then yal and ey'm only mroe driven to keep on keeping on, so scru yew all yr not bettr then mself mey wilpowr is strongr and ey'm not even a JC! And ey'm not troln anyone w/ mey speln, it's decipherable, easily, can't read it? Ignor it or politely ask for clarification, ey'm not 'putting' anyone 'thru' some sorta tortur w/ it. Bak to yr bridges.

Ey'm not a trol nor did ey get kicked off mey other servr nor r mey threads 'jibbrish', put forth the effort to read em or don't comment at all. Simply posted ey'm LFGs for stuff, not tryn to anoy anyone.

(Crowd goes...) WHAT!?

Two the rude comment two posts above...concerning yr obsession w/ being rude to mself on all mey threads and others' as well (feel for that E-B-M-w/e iz name is, dood that left cause of the forum trols), kar-muh is a bit-, remembr that. Concerning the translation, or attempt at it...good shot.

Shel yeah! n dat's the feeshn line!...

Ey don't bring this upon mself, ey get trold here and in-gam randomly for no reason frequently. Hopefully the mod sees the rude post a few above aimed at mself. Yes, it does seem this thread isn't getting a response anytime soon from powrs that be from the looks of it, will see what 2.5 change (root addition) is like on the public servr and when it's live, ey do think all these ideas will be addressed at some point and maybe. hopefully implemented soon, but won't be w/ 2.5, and will likely need to wait til afterwards for 'em, but would still like at least an aknowledgement from someon this thread's been sukd dry by their team and will say at least it's been read even if they have to say, and it be so, nothing will come of it soon, that'd be cool, bu w/e at this point.

Sigh...long stry, what ey meant/mean was/is... BWare didn't/doean't make this secret/top-tier content for the same 1-2 gild's to do only, at least wrld first but usually at all, and ey'd like, alogn w/ others, the community as a whole to get bettr/geared up more/have more fun, and ey'm not necessarily sayn a grp of frends who made a gild can't do this stuff, ey'm nto sayn they should be punishd for bein good, ey just am fond of 'P-U-G''s whether random grps forming of peopl not in a gild, or membrs of multiple gilds, or a grp mostly of a gild w/ non-gildies in it as ey feel it opens it up more and the more peopl outside of that tight-knit grp doin this all/getting geared, the more progress is achieved by the community as a whole, ey wanna help faciliate that and as ey'm always/frequently on, ey'm not sayn ey take some sorta priority, but the more ey am, (and others like mself, there r those out there not fond of 'joinin' gilds, instead making n runnin their own lgacy ones for storage (like mself) or just not at all, as ey, and others, are soloists at hrt and kotr 3 woulda been nice), the more grps have 1m geared persn to help em achieve success in their ops/SMode fps/ops. There are NO 'gild-only' signs allowing only 8m/16m grps where all in it are in the same gild to enter, such as op/fp/wzone entrances, it's for EVERYONE, and ey just like drivin that point home and am constantly LFGs to vindicate the abuse ey get from trols as well, (they're tryn to get rid of mself as that's 1 less persn competing for gear and tryn to be among the top-tier plaers in gam, and/or cause they THINK (not know tho, as ey'm not one at all) ey'm a trol, and/or they just like teasn evryone) by getting into these ops and acheiving these things, wrld first/servr first, before they do, as it's usually them who do do these things. Ey meant/mean that, in mey experience, a great deal of grps that don't allow a non-gildy in to replace a gildy who's not there n call the op instead, or put some meen persn in instead of mself or nicer peopl, are usually elitist gilds and rude n think they're bettr or something, sure not ALL gild runs of content are meen gilds, there are some nice grps who run ops that are all of the same gild. Ey get alot of sh- for 1, typn certain words incorrectly ey feel uncomfortable typn out correctly in-gam/on these forums for various reasons dependant on the word in question, 2, mey eccentricity/enthusiasm (ey like to plae finfan victory theme musc n other musc during last bos scenes and aftr beating an op sometimes, and provide commentary for wresln shows on atm, and chant things like 'tee en ay! tee en ay! tee en ay!' sometimes, nothin wrng w/ some enthusiasm, and it doesn't get outta hnd, ey don't distract ops grps thruout w/ it, it's in moderation, and usually only w/ grps ey feel comfortable w/, ey'm generally a quiet persn, sometimes (ey usually tryn stray from gettin politicl in chat but...) ey feel the need to add a quick cent of mey opinyon before loggn, 3, mey requests/want/need (along w/ others) for more then 5 cargo holds and a lgacy hold and crew skills to take gild hold materials into acc., should the persn's takeout limit not be reached, ey'm not a hoardr, ey don't keep grae colrd junk items, 4 not wanting to 'join' a gild, (am open to it latr but several things needa happen first, but won't get into that atm), pref not to be vid recorded, at least unless told about it before and if mey voice in voiceovr/tspeak/mumbl/etc., will b included or not, and refuse to join a pRse (may latr but wanna at least get 1 major accomplishment w/o beign in one, they're NOT required, if only they'd either, 1, get rid of em from in-gam, or 2, add em in-gam so all have em in a chat channel for it), and/or 5, some peopl r just trols. Hoep that clrs things up. May only be on Harb for a few more nyts before goin back to JC, but will be back sometime, am waiting for someon to come on here n do a trade w/ came here to do so, got iz credits for an item, then will likely go back aftr getting it. This is the reel mself reminding 'YEW!' (points fingr n wags it) to support yr local prowresln and vid rental stores. Thx for readn!

Hey cool, thanks alot! Currently, as of this typn on Harb (secretly left several mornin's ago for bizness) but will (hopefully) be back by tomorow nyt, will have more hyprcrates for sale (of the new 'Opportune' set) when they unbind, will try to be amogn the first to buy 'em so they'll be available sooner then most, btw. Say that both in general and cause T-co is a usual buyer. PM/whispr/mail to pre-order (yes even tho am not on JC atm mey placeholder for name is so can still keep in touch). First-come-first-serve basis, some may needa wait till next wekend to get theirs, on a budget here. Yeah, ey've run w/ T before n yaz, T ran w/ 'merica-eph-yeah before they disbanded a bit, they're nice, ey ran w/ 'em too, wish em well and that they reform soon, as was told they may next mnth-ish. This is the reel mself sayn support yr local prowresln and vid rental stores and thx for readn!

That's not necessary, and is insultn to those who've had one. And ey highly doubt that after the treatment yew n others gave mself.

Ey'm a mDmg LFGF HMode dred ops, NITmode teror/scmnvillny, and entity-essenc runs, all to get geared up for NITmode dred ops and the next secret bos/es to dwn 'em wrld first before trols and elitist all-in-same-gild's do who don't deserve to do such things. PM/Whispr/mail to schedule. Thx for readng!

Ey'm a mDmg LFGF HMode dred ops, NITmode teror/scmnvillny, and entity-essenc runs, all to get geared up for NITmode dred ops and the next secret bos/es to dwn 'em wrld first before trols and elitist all-in-same-gild's do who don't deserve to do such things. PM/Whispr/mail to schedule. Thx for readn!

Ey like the idea of shin form reducing the cd on mastr strik n maybe making it more powrful, but only in the context of improveing mastr strik, as to implement this, which may take awhile if they decide to tie certain 'anchor' abilities to forms, all builds would want/get the treatment meaning each form will now need to have an ability tied to it, so if r spec gets shin form to help out mastr strik it means more work to balance the gam as all other forms will get an ability tied to their forms. Ey'd prefer just reducing the cd on mastr strik flat out and increasing the dmg flat out, and polishing the animat a tad a good .2 to .4 secs (depending on one's latency/connect) could b shaved off, as previously noted. Ey think making one of if not mey fav ability in gam and of many others, sabr reflect (so awesom) longer would make it a tad OP, but that's mainly for offensiv JK Grds, am thinkin for tnking/def Grds agree sabr reflect n sabr ward could be longer/strongr by a teeny tad bit, say a sec each, and that includes the, blade turnin is it?, immunity ability sabr ward grants at start, but for offensiv/Vig/Foc Grds think sabr reflect is fien as it is, tho of course it'd be awesom to make it longer, lol, tho sabr ward's blade turnin/immunity could be a teeny tad bit longer not as much longer as def Grds' sabr ward's blade turnin ability could be, that'd be by a sec, would say a half sec for offensiv Grds. Ey like the idea of combat focus, r energy replenish being, not necessarily tied to an ability, as then all builds may need to get their replenishes tied to one, but also activate/surge an increase in dmg in one's next attak/mastr strik mainly wat r spec would use aftr gettign that, s suggested recently above. Also think 'aw' r area stun ability could activate a buff that will increase dmg in r next attak/an attak as well, and not just be a stun, maybe do same w/ stasis, but also give the Grdian a reprieve enuff time to gather strngth huh huh? Yeah. Thx for readn!

Lez try n stay focusd on a healthy solution here (JK Grd dalogue), regarding the random insultn of BWare devs, callin em names isn't gunna get em to respond positivly to this thread, which thy need to...25 pages encountin...tho tru, their combat team should get into it more and as hybrid deeps specs, particularly r spec, it does seem they need to plae as plaers plae not just go about their programs. Have to agree w/ the peopl saying this is not a melee-frendly gam, it rly isn't w/ most bos fights, they need to make more that have a anti-rangd feel to em, less kitin and more spots fallin away from the bos' immediate area, yet no closer then a min range from em, just a thought... Yeah if ey had to pick one, woud like and think r spec needs more dmg totls then utility and would take if had to choose just an increase to dmg then any new abilities/changes to DoTz/utility, but would like both as most do. Since focus is rly the area spec def of course the tnker one and Vig the melee/primary singl target deeps spec r spec should conceivably be preffd ovr focus for evrything but maybe p v P, as focus/shared specs r generally the p v P ones, so they should do a bettr job of making the deeps spec/rspec of a build/r build have more totl dmg and variations w/ some abilities, like a bettr mastr strik then focus would have and even more so then a def spec would have, should those 2 specs have mastr strik, same w/ other builds, if multiple specs of a build has the same ability, say a channeled attak they revolve around, or seem to, it makes more sense for the pure deeps/singl target spec to have the bettr version of that ability they share...mastr strik in this case. Yeah it does seem if they choose to not make it revolve around mastr strik it'll be till 3.0 at the earliest to add mroe stuff in break that dwn (Still support and can't wait for hood toggle tho). Am liking the grdian's favor ability someon suggestd, be like an offensiv grd only r spec has it only and may or may not take the place of some of the offensiv grd functions ey've suggested n seen othrs suggest, whether it does or not, not sure about the 10-15m range on it, good for p v P allowing no OPness yet a reason to bring r spec, if it doesn't cover the offensiv grd should that come as well, but if it does take the place of an o g, then think it probly should be op-wide, should the energy buff ey've suggestd that would be r form of inspir not happen, tho would rather have that energy buff/r own form of inspir then grdians favor, enuff w/ op-wide mitigation/heals/dmg, there's enuff of those, BUT w/ an op wide energy replenish that brings the question/debate of if one had to choose between sentl n r spec for op wide utility/wzones w/e, who to bring? Which is bettr? Is an op wide increase to dmg/heals bettr and allowing of a victory mroe so then an op wide energy replenish? It's skill based, so even geared plaers can be bahd and nto so geared could be bettr, so if one can do more dmg totl/more w/ an enery replenish, a grp can, achieve victory more then a grp w/ increase to dmg/heals, then r spec would be more preferabele to have in a grp for pv E/P right? Ey rly think an energy replenish would b a great addition to r Vig spec and if a grp feels they can do more w/ more energy then a flat increase to dmg/heals, r spec would be brought into grps more, if had to choose between em. It wouldn't rly nrf sentls they'd stil b brought in ops grps but this is a good way of gettin r spec in the door and abringing of Vig Grd and Sentl would be a great 1-2 punc h for ops grps to have on boses, an increase to dmg/heals AND energy replenish. Yeah the idea of a pure clas was a bit...eh...and gettin rid of em for op survivability and good deeps w/ hybrid builds and op-dmg bolstering/great deeps w/ sentls would be ok, but they're not gunna rework the whole gam like that the pure clases r here to stay, so best thing is to just fix what's in. Thx for readn!

Don't quite get the last comment if it's a insult or not, am not joking/troln, not gibbrish either. Anyways, rly think it's hi time devs respond to 23 pages of feedback to this thread, at least acknoledge they've read it and may implement some of these changes later.

Dunno if the 'don't dare bash mself' comment is legit or not, if no thx for support. And no ey don't need to go. Back on track. Concerning this new discussion about tnkers being able to drop thret, dunno if def-speccd Grds get focusd defense ability, if so, it has it's uses, even for tnkers, disagree with yaz on that, but agree it's mainly for ot's/tertiary tnkers not so much mt's, it does spend focus to recover so if a tnk if good in a certain situation for extra heals since they're nto doing much dmg anyways, if they have good skill w/ tants/several tants off cd, go ahead if they can get thret back feel free to drop thret for a split sec, yes agree it's not preferable for hi-end content but for say a Vig/deeps Grdian queued as a tnker as well or just a tnker for 50 fps or maybe an ot, if there's several, or one needs to take their place after awhile/a debuff stack limit reached, disagree with yaz, focusd def has it's place w/ tnking specs, it makes sense, mean,why wouldn't a tnker spec NOT have a thret release? And it goes w/o sayign why deeps should have and do have thret releases, dunno the hayt focusd def is gettin w/ the last few posts. Anyways be back altr to check on if any mods/devs give this thread a response, it needs at least one, feel threads w/ the most chance/that end up getting implemented, idea-wise, are commented on by devs first, even if they have a question regarding an idea, feel free to ask r help devs, if it means balancing the gam both sides want to help w/ making bettr cause all like it, do it. Save r spec! Have...VIGILANCE!

Ey can typ or refuse to typ certain words correctly or not if ey want to, don't start w/ the grammr nazeing, sik of that buls- in gam, no need to bring it to forums. It's decipherable, yew rly think yew speak for the whole pop? Yr just a rude persn. Yew obviously r givin merit to mey posts if yew keep responding to them, and how can yew know all of wat ey've suggested if yew admit yew haven't read or can't read wat ey suggest? And it's not up to yew who picks clas reps, yr not the ruler of this gam. Would say pick on someon else but nah shouldn't pick on anyone, contribute or 'move alon'. Back on topic, that's not all the utility that's been suggested either by mself or others, whether or not ey've reiterated them. Ey've discussed how 2 offensive grds would work and that other builds may need to get one if r spec gets one, which no one else seemed to share that presumption, some things r spec may get, another may get as well, at least some variation of said ability, but that's not necessarily a negativ thing. Am on the fence about an alacrity buff for grps, it's rly not much nor needed, ey concur w/ the one postr above who said they're not big on it, unless said alacrity buff is the op-wide focus/energy buff from combat focus (ey suggested first on this thread), either that ability as it is, or it modified/used in a combo with another ability or after an event has passed for said op-wide buff to occur OR an entirely new ability like combat focus only for the op not just the indiv., however it'd be implemented, would be cool utility to have and be r spec's inspiraton, like Sentls have. Ey've suggested simply taking Inspir away from Sentls and givin it to r build, as it does seem weird for the pure deeps clas w/ bettr totl deeps already w/o it to have it, it seems not only in name but in its effect something r build would have, but will c on this, may not be needed as it'd take a bit of reworking on their part and a nrf to them isn't necessarily a buff to r spec plus they already have the nrf of only needing one in grp for it and it being op-wide soon coming, so think would rather have the op-wide energy boost instead. Think of this...VIGILANCE...VIGILANT...ALWAYS-READY...BY HAVING A TON OF ENERGY available at a moments notice. Plas brand has aleady been suggested to have not just more dmg as does all/mastr strik mainly needs to have but more/stronger effects, a slow/trauma w/ it. Here's an idea...overhed slash x 2 can grant x2 stacks of making blad strm crit next use maybe add a buff by an ability to make mastr strik crit as well? The idea of making mastr strik a mobile channel again is cool but other builds will want some form of mobile channel... Ey'v suggested mastr strik's incoming root for p v P be usable in p v E on all non-chmpion ranked enemies, as is usual for p v P abilities do have an effect on. Shield from area attaks other tnk buidls have r spec doesn't been suggested... Hey, here's something...maybe an armor increase/mitigation increase for whole op/grp up to heavy rank lvls for a temporary period of time? Will be back latr, late atm, plz if yew have somethin contributive to add don't hesitate to do so, save r spec!

YES!YES!YES! -d bry and mself. Now there was no need for that rudeness, eph off w/ it, either contribute to the thread or get out, hypocrit, tryn to call mself out on not contributing wat was that last post then? Back to yr bridge w/ the rest of the peopl who r meen to mself on the servrs ey've been on and forums ey've visited, yr so big hidin behind yr comps insultn mself, pathetyc. Ey've made nothin but contributive posts on thsi thread and yrself doesn't know mself, again get back on topic.