so what we are seeing is pve gear minus relics is better than naked/pvp gear till 55 and honestly should have see nthis because of expac so not complaining much about that but we are proving gear vs naked gear wins.

I would like to see this too and compare all three

good evidence, some stats are better with gear that i can see so hmm idk

someone said to for naked vs gear period is better and i tested and proved wrong.

I agree, or if you have purped out gear eg craft your own to specific stats you want to purple and you will have better stats then those running around naked. people are morons to think being naked gives them an advantage

I just checked this out myself at level 13 no gear i had worse stats then level 13 with gear there pretty close to = but the fact remains if you twink out your toons while levelign or even having old pvp gear vs naked your stats will be better since it is gear based not level based. I don't know why people think naked = better stats it clearly does not and if you don't believe me go into a warzone naked look at your stats then equip items big difference maybe not but if your in purps there will be

nevermind... it was just a glitch showing the bonus it fixed itself >.>

Um actually they do transfer with at least battlemaster I haven't tested others. you just have to look at your old gear. you won't see the bonus on the moddable gear you transfered to. eg Im wearing Kaligs Countenance with all the Force-master Battlemaster mods and armoring in it. and still get my 4 set bonus.

The only thing I can RE is stuff from vendors eg gear from PvP vendors

Actually you can use that as a Perfect example, since Blizzard broke into the MMO buisness with WoW same as Bioware is doing with SWTOR. Age of Game doesn't matter, most if not all MMOs have these bugs at the beginning especially from new developers.

This game reminds me nothing of Star Trek Online or DC Universe. Yes those went Free to Play, DC Universe after Sony was hacked repeatably and had so much downtime that was the only way to recover. Star Trek Online just didn't have enough followers. This game will not end up like them.

they do? mine say 20% or more if im trying to get schematics

I myself am enjoying the patch, UI customization and new Legacy things. Which gives me things to unlock. Which to me is a lot like extra achievements. Which I enjoy..

are you serious the Devs do read the forums they just choose when and where to post because.. what they say whether it is just there personal opinion or not it "comes from Bioware" after hey post it.. So in the end they don't always post on everything.

Theres nothing wrong with patch 1.2 it''s actually a nice content update imho. I was enjoying and will continue to enjoy it after my physical therapy. Maintenance happens, and since BW is new to MMOs i don't care how long they had to develop it theres things they can't account for because this is there first MMO. People complaining and crying because they feel it should be more complete, more content like other games that have been out for years. Seriously since when does any MMO launch with the same content as another. Stop complaining, wait for the maintence to end by going outside... and doing something. Then play some more.

Winning, I like that and I agree with you.

Not just that I kinda just rofl when i saw that people can come back for free no credit card required rofl

Download? I am installing the Patch!

Hahaha I agree, it is hilarious to read though. It does get annoying after the first 12 threads or so seeing the same stuff posted.

You should see the dozen other QQ threads about no ranked warzones this patch that have been posted.

Owned!

Been waiting since they went down... couldn't sleep.

I work for no one... I just got out of the army, and I am unemployed.

Your right the game was buggy when it got released, but it being pushed could have something to do with EA and not Bioware? Or even Lucasarts? I personally find more enjoyment in TOR than I do in WoW anymore probably because WoW became repetitive in end game and quests.

I find it funny that people try to blame Bioware, but EA can push things or deny things to. I think the Ranked Warzones weren't polished enough so they decided to hold back. People crying because they resubbed for it. Well keep QQing because if that's all you wanted why did you resub theres other games that have Rated PvP already.