Im not sure if you are still active, but I would totally be up for starting a Grey Jedi guild with you. I am Deaglann ingame.

I've noticed this myself and it had gotten me thinking the samething. I did parses on both Lethality and Conceal DPS specs, Im geared in full Rakata, and tested the DPS on the Operations Dummy on the Ziost Shadow for ~ 5mins popping Adrenals and Relic when off cooldown, and Conceal pulled significantly more DPS than Lethality. Its pretty wacky, as I said thought like you, thinking Lethality would be better in a long term fight, but nope Conceal still pulls a head.

Yup Nerf Gun and a Rubber Chicken, Operative weapons of choice!

That sounds cool, but I agree in that it will not help our DPS in PvE. Yes we will be able to do some extra HS but I don't think it will amount to much considering the GCD times and what not. Now what would be cool and know it has been mentioned before but a sort of Shadowdance, like WoW Rogues have, something on the lines of that cloaking and de-cloaking and can have it fit into Star Wars saying "You overload your Stealth Generator causing you to Cloak and De-Cloak, making you able to do moves only able to do in Stealth for X-Seconds." I dont know. I would like us to be a more pure melee class, having a Stealth Bar and others moves besides a Sleep, and a Hidden Strike to do. I find it lame that we are a stealth class, but all moves are based on range, and cover mechanics which arent the greatest for us to use. Like I said I would like to be more a pure rogue class than this Melee-Range Hybrid class thing that can occasionally stealth.

I dont even know why there is all this fighting, this was merely just a joke a thread ad people having fun/joking about our class. Its called enjoying the game and talking with the community. Then we get Johnny Blow Hard posting pics of his e-peen, and ruining everyone elses fun. No one was QQing on this thread at all, but merely having fun and joking about new patch changes after our nerfs. Take a chill pill and relax, this was a fun thread till whatever his face started linking meaningless pics.

Yup, New Operative Moves/Buffs: -Their Crit Buff now gives a -5% Crit. -Hidden Strike now gives the player a full Resolve bar for 2min, if said player is a Sorc it last 10mins and no longer knocks them down but gives a bubble to enemy player. -Corrosive Dart/Corrosive Grenade(Lethality) now heal enemy targets for 15% of their base health over 30seconds. If used on Operations boss heals boss for 30% of their base health. -Backstab now puts the target into a laughing fit as you tickle them. Tickling target will also give them a 10% Damage buff.

So I tried out Concealment Operative spec being 3/31/7, My buffs were the same as Lethality Parse, Crit Buff, Rakata Skill Stim, and using my Adrenal and Relic on CD Twice. My DPS upped 200. My Total DPS was 1209.09 with my Concealment Spec. So it seems to be a nice boost. I still think Lethality does more DPS and I just goofed my rotation somewhere while testing it. but yeah. Thoughts?

Nah I heard they are just completely removing the Operative AC from the game and making all current Ops into Sorcs.

Hmmm maybe Ill have to Concealment then, try it out on the dummy.

Hello, So I decided to parse my DPS using http://swtor.wildking.net/ its almost setup like World of Logs for those who have used it. I'm currently using a 7/3/31 for my Lethality Spec. But current "Rotation" is: Hidden Strike Pop my Adrenal(Crit) and my Relic(Crit/Surge) Shiv Weakening Blast Corrosive Grenade Corrosive Dart Stim Boost Cull Backstab/Rifle Shot as Filler Shiv Cull and Repeat refreshing DoTs and Weakening Blast. I sat on the Operations Training Dummy for ~3Min and my DPS Parse was 1025.51. I just want to see how everyone else parses were looking. I would have done a Direct Link to the parse but the site doesn't have that ability yet I guess.

/signed, sealed and deliver!

Fail BW Poster Fail. Massive /Facepalm!

I completely agree. A thread post that is 34 pages long and 334 post or so and your till going to say the player is wrong and the almighty Devs who most likely dont even play this game or if they do dont play Operative/Scoundrel at all will be correct 100% of the time >.>..... Woot for trolling Devs!

Im jealous of Assassins they got a whole epic tooltip fix!

I wouldnt say their arent any good looking sets, the current Jedi Knight Raid gear looks pretty good imo, I also like the Operative Raid gear with helm hidden and hood up. I will most likely be putting the gear mods in my Rakata set I have currently.