You get your cartel coins for free? So you didn't pay 15 bucks for it and WZ and operations? The rest of the game everyone gets for free. At this point the only thing we pay for is WZ access and operations, the rest are some visual things most can do without.

Blaine Christine said this in their livestream. ''As a subscriber, you can expect virtually no changes beyond the new stuff from the patches. You are getting addition of loyalty program where you get a monthly grant of cartel coins. Some new content we generate in the future maybe restricted to FTP players where subscribers are certainly able to easily get in there. '' I'm going to hold them to that, that livestream is the only reason I decided to stick with SWTOR F2P, if they go back on their word I'm gone.

When did he say he's a completionist? It's funny how he has to be a completionist for you to get such a long list, way to make a point. Someone had an entire conversation on this a page or two ago, if you wanna check it out. There's people who agree and there's people who disagree. If that's what's you think that's cool. I just don't want CM in my sub. It was supposed to be an exclusive thingy away from the main sub game, Damion Schubert said they didn't want the CM to be the 'way' to play the game, now it kind of is.

Don't want to believe it, but this sounds very likely It has only been what, 2 weeks top since 2.0 launched? Then again we have a few weeks to go, might just be finishing it up.

I'm guessing we will hear something tomorrow, if anything, it is Sunday today. XD But yeah I agree with you. I have faith they'll listen to us on this, this something no one has done before so it might just be them testing the waters - which they really need to stop doing.

Should do it like all other classes, make it available to at least 1 class on each side, F2P/Preferred buys, we get it with the sub and unlock it for other classes by leveling it to 50.

Yup, like all other species. Devs have said us subscribers are still their number 1 audience, so I really hope they listen to us on this.

This is exactly how I feel about all this, it's not the even the cathar specifically I'm worried about, it's that the new standard for SWTOR content charges even subs for basic features.

Are you making money on this or something? Or do you just have a lot of free time? I'm just not going to respond to you anymore, lol.

Your welcome to label it as you wish, I'm here to voice my opinion to BioWare, not discuss it with someone who is clearly on the other side. I don't need to get you on my side nor am I interested in getting on yours. Agree to disagree, moving on.

These are the same individuals who were ridiculing worried players back in 2012 with their ''the sky is falling'' jokes. Some people just aren't willing to acknowledge things they don't like.

Character Customization is going to be 800 CC for both subs and F2P. And I don't think they should make us use our cartel coins to offset them cash grabbing for content. I already support the game by subscribing, everything else should be free. I can understand new vanity stuff like Revan's/Nihilus' Mask are CC but something basic like a new species and re-customization should be free.

Instead of getting into it with you, I'm just going to refer you this post. This is how I feel, whether you or anyone else agrees or disagrees.

It's crazy. I'm starting to wonder why I even sub anymore. Might as well get passes for the WZs since everything is behind a paywall anyway regardless of whether I sub or not. Tired of this crap BioWare, that free month we got in January/February seems to be the first and last act of good will from you guys towards your customers.

Don't know what you're talking about, Jung Ma is fine. Both sides.

Is that the cool new thing to do or something? I thought non-PvPers were supposed to be the good//friendly/tolerant people. Weren't we supposed to be the unsatisfiable, always QQ'ing, player no one likes? We have only 5 warzones available to us but most of us are fine with it. Yet after 2.0 went live players went through Makeb/the new operation and now they're like ''IT'S TOO SHORT, WHAT'S NEXT, WE CLEARED S&V LAST NIGHT, BIOWARE CAN'T KEEP US ENTERTAINED!''. PvP in SWTOR is fine for me the way it is and it's also the only thing I do and enjoy at endgame, that includes Open World PvP. It's funny how some individuals can't find their place in it or just don't like it and are asking for mergers, scrapping PvP all together, or isolating PvP to certain planets and keeping everything else PvE. But no no, we're the elitist unlikable players ruining the game for everyone else.

Reported, all you do is rile everyone up, just a bitter troll. First the 'Remove PvP and focus on PvE' thread, and now this.

PvP is the only reason I play this game. And haven't you made this thread before Woad?

You should remove bolster from 55 entirely.

Assuming they'll be there.

These ARE the mega servers. Very frustrating to only occasionally be able to play something you pay for. Hope they do something about this fast.

Has anyone else noticed this? I can't seem to play without encountering lag spikes/total freeze every 15 minutes and the occasional disconnect.

This is exactly the reason people were/are so upset with BioWare that they turned this into a WoWclone, because it had much more potential, especially in today's world and current tech.

I'm going to stop this discussion with you since you can't seem to stop disrespecting me. Thanks for your input. If you read the rest of that discussion you'd know that I do in fact welcome opposing points of views and that his terminology was simply too provoking for me to continue. I've also stated that I respect and understand his and everyone else's opinions regardless of whether they agree with me or not. Thanks for your post, I'm also excited for what this patch will bring.

In your opinion. All I'm trying to do is to save PvP gear progression, as it is the only thing my friends and I enjoy at end game. Like I said, for those who are okay with this system, I'm happy for you. But please don't reduce my opinions to whining just because they don't agree with yours. Thanks for your post.