how is that even possible lol? project- stones pull out of the floor shock-- just instanly hit.. how can shock be delayed then?... this but me be realy gamebreaking

pretty much when they release patchnotes at first.. nothing major is happening between.. no big changes..or corrections.. they say it's subject to change, BUT it never changes... so whats ur point? Assasins should have been looked at closer.. but they failed at doing so.. and just trolol on mara's now.. *** is going on

Ur not the only one who thinks that.. i think 80% of posted here are playing 1.

I am full Bm geared and used mods from a second pair of leggings, this gives u +74 2 x instead of 48, switched up some of my head to, will and critt, on 1537 will, and 32,77% critt rating. I think buying a 2th of the legs realy gives u some more critt rating, still looking for improvements.

Yea, if u pop up all cooldowns. you have to wait another 3 min to use all cd's. Outside these cooldowns, it takes way longer to kill some one if he is same geared. not even talking about high armor. It feels alot of people writing deception down if it's plain easy. Try not to be focused in any warzone. Ur a light armored melee class with no healing and 1 devensive abillity. (Not counting FS, cus u pretty much only use it if u have ur vanish up to escape) Some buff would be sweet, i was thinking in general to lower the damage of tanks by some but increase threat/block. And increase the damage of pure dps classes. Right now tanks doing equel or more damage then pure dps classes. reff to tankass/deception/madness. There are alot of issues going on right now. But if u look closely i already wrote down the biggest 1.

Thanks, but can you leave now? i will remember you name tho.

31/0/10 is basic for every just tuned level 50.. most surv, healing etc. If u like that go for it.

Yes, i see what u mean. But the thing is alot of players dont like the playstyle( reff to EZmode) of darkness. Deception is harder to play since ur more squishy. Making spike more usefull is also something i was thinking, so either make it. (for example) 30 force 15 sec cooldown 2 sec of stun- that does 2k damage? 15 force 15 sec cooldown 2 sec stun. any of those would make me happy, some small tweaks to the deception tree aswell wouldn't hurt anyone.

IQUOTE=Blarginflarg;3335864]Cool beans. Lets see if we can't get some good posts. Currently i pvp and raid as madness 5/5/31. I am currently in love with the spec but there are some general issues i do want to address. 1. why doesn't our "opener" deal any real meaningful dmg. Its a 2 second stun that lets us get off maybe 1 attack and my only current use for it is an emergency interupt in conjunction with vanish. I understand it probably doesn't do much dmg due to darkness being able to use it out of stealth. I would say an "easy" fix would be to add a stealth tag to the ability that makes it do extra dmg when used in stealth. Making the out of stealth version what it is supposed to be, an interupt that increases the dmg done to the target for a short while. 2. this one may not apply due to my laziness to check on it but i believe assassins training still does not add the 25% dmg to shock like its supposed to. I could care less if it did add it but if an ability is telling me one thing then doing another it becomes upsetting every time a guy gets away with 100 heath. 3. Initial dmg on dots such as creeping terror and discharge(electric) should break caps but not the following dmg. Again another "easy" fix would be to tag the initial dmg as an actual ability kinda like how crushing darkness works. Does dmg then applies a dot, seems fair. 4. XALEK WANTS HIS SHIELD RATING AND ABSORB TO GO UP WITH STATS. He is tired of being at his starting stats in full champ survival gear. 5. kill Ashara other than that i can't really think of much more that i would wan't fixed. My dmg seems fine other than that pesky and elusive 5k dmg medal. I also don't find myself questioning my class when i die in a pvp fight, which is one of the things i look into for a class. Overall i believe assassins are the most balanced overall with longevity on the battlefield as well as the ability to dish out some painful numbers while pressuring healers to triage because they just can't heal the dots that go out without losing all their resources. Tho this is coming who has played madness in beta from lvl 10 and madness live from lvl 10. So my input for other specs is limited i can give it a try. Deception. 1. Sadly i just don't find this spec fun. Voltaic, Voltaic, Shock, discharge(hmmm did maul proc? No? ok.) Voltaic, voltaic, shock, discharge(oh neat maul proc'd) electrocute/vanishspike and maul rinse repeat. I'm not really sure how you can increase the dynamic of their rotation but anything new for it would be welcome. It's like tasting an old recipe you know from heart but something seems to be missing. 2. Glass cannons are fun but you can only break them so many times before you want something that will last you. Increasing the deception ability to survive on the battlefield will more than likely be tough due to the high burst dmg they can put out. A copper cannon launching nukes doesn't have to worry about anything breaking it, i understand and have no suggestions to it otherwise but i believe it should be mentioned. Darkness truthfully i can't say i have played this for much more than ilum base pulling for my weekly/daily. I think its kind of a crutch to play this spec in pvp. With its high survival ability and decent numbers it just seems like it is the go to spec for anyone new to a pvp environment. I am not against new player friendly specs/classes its just a personal preference. If i see a darkness sin/con on the battlefield i will attempt to kill them if they are in the way but if not i just leave them be because its wasted energy i could use on a healer thats healing him or something else. If they really want to kill me and chase me then they can go ahead because they aren't harassing anyone else and i can just vanish away. that is about all i really have. Hopefully this gets a serious read from a dev and i get to see some changes that i suggested. PS LET ME GET A HEAL FROM LEGACY!!!!! I realy liked reading this! I think ur right about deception. There were alot of good option in other threads about this spec. Itls good to see some constructive post instead of already 2 posts of being grammer naz i"s

U dont realy deserve a quote, but stay on topic.

I saw some post regarding PTS 1.2, Players have the opportunity to send feeback(since we are going to make some adjustments to all the classes, which is worth a free respec at launch) So with that said, i think we should have all the possibility to write down the things said in the last few weeks about Assasin class. This patch gives us the Opportunity to make some changes to our class/spec. I hope i will get on this PTS so i could suggest something along those lines of a opener out of stealth. If u get the chance what would u gave bioware as feedback? ---Leave the trolling at home and come with constructive feedback/opinions----

Nah, ur overreacting. It looks kinda cool, it has some shaman feel to it, can't wait to sneak up with my assasin up to an enemy with this HUGE facemask , they will be like aahwtf ! Besides if u prefer something els just go modd orange stuff nuffsaid.

This is exactly what i was thinking, it has some voodoo feel to it, and i realy like the mask.. like shaman from diablo 3 olmost.. Anyway, i hope they wont be just having recollered sets for assasin/sorc i hope there will be some major differents between th 2 sets.

No, specially in this game clicking is bad! cus of lag/server problems/abillity delay such things, clicking will work against you. I wouldn't recoment pvping if ur clicking, u will do other players no good..

u know.. afther making my own thread about deception and having a live chat with the CS talking about deception i.. just.. dont care anymore.. Deception needs a buff no matter what, and i like your ideas ALOT! just.. just.. hoping for bioware to even mention this spec..