I know. I don't raid for loot, I raid for fun. There's nothing remotely challenging in SWTORs raid, and I'm pretty sure that the people who downed stuff in Naxx40, SWP, even HM Ulduar pre-nerf will agree. I'm already done with SWTOR, sub cancelled, most of my friends quit as well....just spending some time here until I can play Tera again. Enjoy your pretty voice acting and keep telling yourself that it's worth to pay a sub for a single-player game. Bobz out.

The ones 'bashing' the games are the ones who want to see it fixed and actually playable. Those saying the game is fine are just lying to themselves or haven't reached lvl 50 yet.

No, my opinion is based on facts. Yours is based on lack of experience it would seem.

Some pretty low standards you have there...

Whatever MMO EA touches dies a horrible death soon after. I see a pattern here...

Completely balancing an MMO is impossible. Each little change affects a multitude of things, and when you consider changes affect both PvE and PvP environments alike, things get that much harder. That said, I don't think balance in WoW is horrid, nor do I think the 'examples' you used are valid.

I'm not a programmer or anything, but I don't see an ounce of good reason that could lead them to pick Hero over, say UE3. I hear people say it's harder to work with the latter, but BW already had experience with the engine thanks to Mass Effect 1 and 2, and given the amount of accolades and incredible games the engine has, it just makes me even more amused as to why BW chose Hero(the first of many bad decisions and a vital one that they can't change now)

And it will likely be endgame content, unless BW decides to revamp the planets. Thanks for corroborating my point.

Don't worry, apparently BW doesnt either!

It's what I've been saying this entire time, but people are too mesmerized by lightsabers and voice acting to actually pay attention to this.

Even if that was remotely true, normal mode raids are meant to be easy and only pose some degree of challenge(otherwise casuals would be butthurt and quit the game). Unless you cleared the heroic raids in that time, which I hope you say you did, so I can safely assume everything you said is crap

The game doesnt have that many followers because it was poorly advertised and there are many issues regarding lawsuits, it being a korean game, Elins and whatnot. But hey, I seriously doubt this game would have done a better job if it wasn't for the SW franchise and the fact that BW made it. The second is what sold it for me, and I can't say I'm all but completely disappointed.

No MMO truly needs to be P2P, just take a look at the costs to maintain the game(Unless, of course, you decide to spend 200 million on pointless voice acting *rolls eyes*). GW1 is proof of that. And I think you meant TERA will go free to play. Maybe it does, but I don't think it will.

I for one can say I had a very enjoyable time in Tera, but thats not the point of this thread, whatever the point is. And yes Nemmar, thats how it works. Just like you don't run old raids, or don't spend justice/honor points in old gear. That's just how it is and I dont doubt SWTOR will do the same come the next content tier.

I'm talking community, not gameplay. Both are important aspects of an MMO and cross-server LFG seriously hurts one of them while helping the other(thats how I see it anyway, a lot of people agree on this and a lot do not). Sure, WoW's graphics are bad, look at how old it is, but compare the textures with the half-baked stuff you see in SWTOR(Hell, we cant even get the high res things god knows why)! And yes, we're all tired of hearing about WoW, but what do you expect when most games copy, and so many players ask, for the features that came from that same exact game(dungeon finder comes to mind)?

That if the gaming market wasn't as unforgiving as it is. You dont get second chances that often, and the way I see it SWTOR wasted their first already.

Yes, I'm happy that devs in WoW worry more about endgame balancing instead of leveling balance. That's exactly what 'leveling' means! When all classes reach the same/similar point and can perform their job in an equal fashion. Also, it sounds pretty dumb to me to focus on the content you do while leveling. Say you play this game for 5 years, how long do you think you'll have spent leveling your characters, and how much doing endgame content? In 5 years, which one will matter the most?

I dont agree with cross-server LFG, not after what happened in WoW. I used to know the people in my server, knew who was that good healer or tank, the guy with the awesome dps or that other dude who was in the best guild but sucked bad. Now I just know the people I raid with, and the eventual guy who provides the gem cuts I need. LFG limited to the server is fine by me though... Also, the problem here is not only the amount of endgame itself, but how long it lasts. Think of Naxx back when it was released, and how you needed resist gear for Sapph, or 8 tanks for T4H. It took time and effort to get things done and when you did, you got that feeling of accomplishment like you could take anything else they threw at you. This is why many gamers look back to EQ and original WoW and think 'wow, the game was utter crap but I had the time of my life'.

So...you were comparing leveling while taking things like dmg meters into account? Sorry, but they're completely unrelated. Damage meters matter for endgame. It's cool and all if 'we are having fun and things are going down', but if there is a weak link in my group I want to know who it is so we can either improve or replace the player.

Yes, some specific classes in specific specs using very specific strategies can solo some raid bosses from older expansions. Unfortunately, I can't think of a current boss any tank would be able to tank for its entirety with no heals coming in.

That was not the point, but the issue with stolen assets was already solved, culprits punished. Even if NCSoft somehow wins the lawsuit and the game is prohibited from being released, I can still safely say I had/will have more fun in the CBs and OB than in any other MMO I've played. Go kill some BAMs and then talk back if you still can.

By the time Rift had 3 months, half of the things community asked for had been delivered, we had a dungeon finder, greater means of customization than SWTOR(and no, orange gear is not an option until they make it work with endgame gear), bugs in raids had been fixed and the best of all, we still weren't wearing the best gear in the game. Endgame lasted until the next tier/raid was delivered. Trion does this job very well. Rift's only problem is playing too safe for their own good, whereas SWTOR has way more serious issues than I have fingers in my hands.

It is creativity. They were the ones that created the stuff. Sure, what they did was illegal, but they stole what they had done themselves, not someone elses work.

The only 'life' that can be noticed in SWTOR is the sound of my footsteps or the engine of my mount :s

Logistics, I mean Lineage 3 was called off. The employees then procceeded to get pissed after watching years of work go to waste and created Bluehole Studios. And for those saying the game is a massive grind, go play the 'westernized' version of it. En Masse added hundreds of quests to reduce the grind time and provide a smooth experience(although I do think the dungeons still take a long *** time to finish)