Come on man, trolling has been here since day 1. nothing new.

So i was reading the -LIVE STREAM EVENT 9/21/12 4:00 CDT- and it mentioned a new warzone, new operation, AND new social features? What do you think those new social features will be? Like many others i`ve been saying that what is really missing from swtor is the social aspect. As much as we enjoy the warzones, ops, Flashpoints, story etc etc, a lot of us feel like the game would benefit from some mini games or something around the realms of pazaak/swoop racing (with bets) you name it. I wonder if any of these things will make it to 1.4 if so that would be great, it will give people another reason to log in to swtor and do other things besides pvp and pve.

I sure hope not, every time i would see one of his interviews it would get me even more excited about swtor pre launch. I hope it is just a rumor.

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Did anyone else have lower frames per second after last night`s patch? what did they do.

Buy what? what if tom does not play MMO`s or knows about swtor at all. Then what? what good is it having a facebook only voting option?

trends trends, when will people learn... remember when the sheep had myspace? hahaha.

I dont have a facebook account and i never will, why can`t i just vote for the pet we get when the game goes f2p through our account services? and btw i hope all of you are voting for the jawa, screw the other 2 options xD!

Indeed, oh and more Flashpoints and warzone and a new planet...... great Bioware still does not get it that **** like that wont help this game.......

Already announced nightmare mode today in E3.

You know where i think the problem really is?. It is not that they are arrogant i think it has more to do with the programers and coders of the game. For example i remember an E3 2011 interview with Daniel Erickson where he was asked if the Operation Eternity Vault would be faction specific, Daniel Erickson said "Well at first i had envisioned that we would have 2 diffrent operations for the Empire and Republic, but it was shut down by the developers because it would cause imbalance etc etc. In other words it was too much work for the coders and what not. The doctors and Daniel probably had another vision for this game but the actual developers made them cut corners here and there, compromise if you will. Well now we are seeing what compromising and cutting corners in a game does for you. Wether it was the Bioware team or EA or perhaps it was the fact that it would take way too much time doing that, and what they wanted at the time is to get the game out there back in 2011. Who knows,! My point is i bealive there was alot of things in this game that were removed or simplu dumbed down. Its like an artist that sees a painting in his head but can not put it down on paper just how he wants it he compromises and gets the main idea in there.You can blame the Hero engine or lazyness or lack of time, but its difinitely not the imagination of bioware. Either way this game needs to offer something that at least 30 other MMO`s are not already giving us for free. Riads/dungeons/Warzones are just not doing it for people anymore. Before all you ney sayers argue with me, i suggest you go look at the server status at peak time or when ever.

Well true, but this game already has a storyline, that in my opinion is great. We have 8 story lines to be exact. I get your point though.

And they do not revolve around Raiding , thats what i`m saying. And you can cotumize your Pod like a freaking racing car..

Great question, but its up to bioware. It goes beyond just simple side games though, we dont want Pokemon like WoW is doing. Here is a thought, how about POD racing, place bets, race, its pvp AND its social. Fist fighting clubs ALA The Witcher 2 just some ideas. Feel free to add more Edit: Actual Social Hubs/ Making at least 1 planet completely Sandbox to where people can make their own cities or whatever they want.

If thats all gamers wanted then this game would have High population in every server or at least 10, go check the server status, Obviously people are bored of the same old same old.

Adding all of that, plus some hidden exclusive quest lines would be amazing, not only that adding more social hubs, where do people go to hang out? there ships.... there is no interaction. Champions online has bars where people role play and just go their to have fun. Swtor seems not have any of these things or does a poor job of making them entertaining. All this game has turned into is, COMBAT COMBAT COMBAT, the only role playing is in your class story quest. I miss going out and exploring worlds and continents not knowing what i was going to find. Now i only go from Quest to quest to quest, there is no secret areas to discover. anyway i`m just ranting i hope you get my point.

To get back to the topic, I don’t see why so many people think that sandbox and theme park style design are mutually exclusive. No reason why you can’t have a theme park style game with plenty of sandbox elements. indeed.

You are ignorant and close minded, what part of ADDING sandbox elements dont you understand?. They will role out new, class quests, Raids, Flashpoints eventually but to only do that will be the death of swtor. Just becuase you dont like something it does not mean other people wouldnt.

its not a swtor vs SWG debate, its a swtor needs elements from sandbox games, not exclusively from SWG. But of course that is the only other star wars mmo. If swtor had alot more things to do other than Raid, PVP, Dailies. Wouldnt you think the servers would have higher population?, because obviously doing what they are doing now is not going to work. F2p will be upon us if they stick to the WoW formula and dont try and break away from it, wrong choice of words not break away but ENHANCE it.

i think you are wasting your time, people like him all they care about is flexing their internet muscles showing off their gear.

i wouldnt hold my breath on the Elder scrolls MMO it isnt even being built by bethesda, yet another WoW clone on the making.

IN YOUR opinion, but who are you to say that some people wouldnt like that?. if you dont like it well then you are not force to play it, but to say NO ONE wants something like that is just plain ignorant. Either way that was an example, there alot more sandbox elements they can add, allowing in game housing (besides our ships) allowing people to buy properties and put up buildings of their own, cantinas/shops/ etc.

I think bioware said, lets keep everything wow has done and lets add story and voice overs and some little things. If it aint broken dont fix it. but they were wrong people want something else, if we wanted WoW we would have stayed there, Gear up to raid, raid to gear up is old news MMO`s in general need to add new ways of entertaining people, While still keeping the old school elements in there.

untrue statement, i know quite alot of people who enjoy MMO`s for the social element and not the combat FYI its called ROLE PLAYING. after all swtor is an MMO R P G.

Like i said on the original post, they need to ADD sandbox elements not take away from what is already there. Keep the raids coming for the raiders, keep warzones coming for the PVP people BUT add something else to do in between, Crappy boring repeatative dailies wont do the trick.