You are most welcome for showing what lying and what a poser is about LAWL!!!! Anyone just has to go look at YOUR posts... you go from talking trash about the class and how underpowered and weak healers and OP the Mara is....then recently you try to play like you know the class and junk.... Seriously anyone wants to see you flip flop and look worse than a current Repub candidate that cant get things right,,, Just click on your name and look at all your posts.... Its frapping hilarious...I only made it to the 2nd page before I couldnt stop myself laughing like crazy and sad thats enough... You even have a player of the class telling you how it plays and you KNOW that class too...

I am arguing he doesnt know what he is talking about AND he's trying to social engineer things like others... If thats all you were thinking please READ the posts and the comprehension might show a little more.. Nice try though trying to trap me...

a week ago you were bad mouthing Mara's, and now you are in support and KNOW them... Hmm lets take a look in the way back machine shall we.... Hmmmmmm sarcasm??? ok lets check this one out.... Wow no hate for Mara's now do we? OK just ONE more (i could go on forever) Sure as heck seems like you dont play or know one... and since Mara's are soooooo OP and you play a Jugg and they are exactly alike, that means Juggs need a nerf too eh? ID-10-T !!!!!

So in essence what you are REALLY trying to say is this.. "I know Marauders because I play a Juggernaught." ughhhhhh.... ID-10-T

and you know this because you play a mara too? What is pretty much accepted by other mara/sents that GS and Sniper are their deadliest oponents? The only reason I kill GS and Snipers is because most are terribad, the good snipers and GS can at worst case scenario keep me locked down, the really good ones kill me...

Oh you're in for some pain... gaurentee the H8R's will not like this post... Something I didnt see you didnt mention (and not needed for the AC) was the lack of stuns or CC's... since you favor your operative. I suspect the focus fire you are feeling is from the expertise changes and the percieved notion that mara/sents are OP as in healing was not upped that much were damage was significantly increased, and the shock value of it all, 2 sabers get focused hard sometimes. If you play Anhilation, they are the least squishy of the trees...

the best tree is Anhilation, hands down... I would say Carnage has the most single target burst DPS and Rage has the most multiple target DPS... I play carnage FYI... and nothing really matters how you level to 50...

sure you were 1v1 and no snipers around or AoE's?

Well its edited heavily too... it two seperate matches... and the times I saw you die with the mara around in the 2nd match there was also an assassin...

Ok I watched that whooleeeeee video.... a few things I would LOVE to point out... 1st - There was not one dual weilding Sith in that video.... aka no marauders. 2nd - You won and kicked their tail 3rd - you died 3 times I think, that it, or was it 4? 4th - The things you died to, was a Sith Juggernaught and Sith Assassins. and then part two....which I am watching... every time the ONE mara was around there was a Sith Assassin assisting him.... Shirley, you can't be serious.... Are trying to tell me because you cant take 2 people on your Sage that Mara's are OP?????

I mentioned something about this before, but let me be clear, I dont not think its OP, needs to be nerfed nor QQ'ing about it... However, I think someone told me it might have been flamethrower... I dont have a fraps or a SS just my vague memory of the combat which doesnt mean it was one ability, could have been a strong combo for all I know... My experience was in a void star, we planted a bomb, the PT came in and there was 4 there at the door. One was pretty injured (I think about 40% maybe 50%) and two others were down about to 80% and I was about 95%ish in health. A lone PT comes in, all 4 swarm the PT and I see a flame sweep animation, I dont recall if something happend prior to that, and within 3 to 5 seconds of all this starting, one guy drops, they other players health drop by a noticable amount and my health drops 20 to 30%. I know that human experience for live interaction and how the memory stores it can be varied and very distorted, hence why I tried to write that as about as honestly as I could. He was a good player too, I could tell that, he still died and we still blew the door and won voidstar.... I only mention this because someone was qq'ing about it being to OP, because its not, it hurts and its damaging but its not something that can be spammed as far as I seen yet. I dont even have a PT so this is not me trying to save "my" class from being nerfed...

Correction, Min/Max Mara players will play Anhilation... Good Mara players will play what ever class they enjoy playing the most... Rage is even a REALLY viable spec right now just due to the rarity of the spec. People will not be expecting nor use to 7K smashes going off. Definately a medal earning specc... Mind hosing your oponent is a very viable strategy.

Nahhhh, as just saying I dont think most Mara's have that since most are Anhilation and the talent is pretty high up on the Carnage tree. Its called Displacement and its a teir four 2/2 talent under carnage... so for the most part the range for most Mara/Sent will be 4m

Well I will say L2p because I am not calling for a nerf nor QQ'ing about the class... I also never said I think the mara/sents are UP (or OP for that matter).... you do really look like you are QQ'ing now... I didnt see anything like you said in these posts here... Where as other people whos mains were obviously other classes (mostly Sages/Sorcs) actively coming in QQ'ing and calling for a nerf and BLATENTLY try to social engineer when you can easily see in their posts that them playing the class is them just rolling one and suddenly an expert on the class.

Snares and Roots do not fill resolve... I have gone against many snipers and gunslingers and unless your resolve bar is full from another fight... that empty resolve bar dont mean squat to them...

Actually... depends on what tree you specc in to, you can talent in to making Obfuscate ranged... I think its 10m, my Carnage Mara has it... I cant log to check it, on calls at work.

Which leads me forecast the next flair of endless threads about a class being OP, will be about Snipers and Gunslingers. Which more than likely will be the same people QQ'ing now.

As a Marauder I can say the only class that really gives me grief if played right are Smugglers and Agents, both AC's for different reasons, one is just annoying and the other makes me feel the pain. However, with that said, most people don't play them right I have discovered. Thanks to the really good players, I can take apart less players that dont know their class and/or panic when I get to them... Honestly, i have seen more run and panic now, I guess that the fear mystic from the forums how everyone is pwnt by mara/sents.

Love how no one mentions and conveinently forgets that this class is melee range only and how they love to mix talents of the tree together. Oh they big stealth they can use to heal from... it lasts 4 seconds and I been hunted down many times even using it as an escape. You cant escape very far and it doesnt drop combat... For you people that are clueless... Try looking at your mini map and for the red dot... whoa... its still there... L2P and just because you stealth doesnt mean you cant be attacked... Been plenty of times I have force camo'ed and still got shot and killed. The only stealth I have seen drop combat completely is the actual stealth classes. People will always exagerate and embelish their stories to make them "right"

Is the pre 50 PVP? Im sure it is... I still dont see it ever... and you have a circular logic about not saying it.. Easyily enough... Sages and Sorcs need to L2P, and stop saying you dont! See what I did there... BW said metrics were exactly in lne to what they expected, people still whine and keep saying oh heres your nerf Mara/Sent (last few patches) still not there.... god mode button??? Envious and not to bright... just because you want to use your CC or Stuns in an offensive matter instead of as a counter is not the games fault, its the player fault... Oh about other players "god mode" button being to stn someone for 6 seconds or more and beat on them with no reprisals...Oh did you forget mara/sents have no CC or stuns?

FYI, before you dog someone on spelling you MIGHT want to look something up and before you say they are wrong, take a little time to read. please note entry 3 and 4.... With that said, no wonder people refuse to take the time to learn and instead QQ about things they have no clue about, like SPELLING...

How to destroy this class? BMC and QQ about the class to the devs....

You forgot Scoundrels and Gunslingers!!!! You also forgot they need to nerf Expertise and premades...

IIRC, the initiation of ravage is 4m and extends out to 10m, has to be channeled over 3 seconds as the damage comes in three ticks, the last tick being the most dangerous. Just about any counter ability can pretty much stop it other than an interrupt ability itself.

Can you say BURST DPS okay todays lesson is over, please continue with your regulary scheduled programs...