So I cant find a great guide anywhere. Watching a few streamers here and there. But for instance I have questions like opening from stealth... am I just coming out using volatile strike? or Backstab? I see some people mixing it up. It makes the most sense to me to Backstab and still get the damage proc from VS right after.

SO, I wanted to see first off if there is any comprehensive 4.0 Concealment PvP guide. I can't seem to find one (doubt there is one). I know a lot of people are complaining because of our comparatively low DPS. Regardless, I was hoping some of you can help me out. I used to Concealment a lot way back in the day (like Acid Blade and Explosive Probe rotation days) and was wondering if some people here could throw some advice my way. Rotation mainly is what I'm looking for. There's a lot of abilities gone/added along with a number of procs.

But the thing about being stunned. That would have to be advance prototype. I see 5 times as many pyros since the patch.

Haha I would have never thought of that. But it's a really good reason. And I bet you learned that thing about snipe and overload shot in that HallowBall match,

I see. Now that it 100 percent regrants TA you can lacerate in the beginning. Holding off shiv til the end. And Powertechs because they really don't have much to get away with. I'm so confortable with debilitate early in the rotation. But, change must be made.

Hallow? Alive? No such thing. I wonder what his secret name will be :?

Aye Scotland!

Well Miyke, I came up with an askmrobot character a few pages back if you need a "base" character with augments on every piece and everything. I don't know, might save you some time on the gearing section. But I look forward to the debates that come up and the updates that come!

So would you suggest me have just 1 Alacrity enhancement or if im only having one just take that one out all together?

Scratch my last message somewhat. I am going for Scrapper totally and not Dirty Fighting at all. I have gone through the middle part of this forum seeing what people are liking. I have come up with this character on askmrobot. I need feedback now from you real Scrapper Scoundrels on more of X and less of X. Right now I have low Alacrity. I only have one enhancement. At that point should I run Alacrity at all? I'm not sure. 24% crit I think is pretty solid but I could be wrong. Great thread by the way and I appreciate any help I receive otherwise I am going to follow this character itemization to the tee. Askmrobot end game PvP min/maxed low Alacrity build: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/ad81a698-106e-4237-96c1-b52082c2f904

So, as I hit 55 on my scoundrel I begin to make an askmrobot outline of what gear I will be getting. In summary, what Crit %, Alacrity %, Bonus Damage, and Surge % are you guys using for Scoundrel DPS? Say I play both Dirty Fighting and Scrapper equally. What has been working for you guys?

Well, I suggest a couple things could have gone wrong. First off your healer gear should be adequate enough for DPS. As recently I have been playing DPS for weeks at a time and still getting the healer gear I was shooting for. For one as a concealment you job a lot of the time is to guard the node, pylon etc. If you don't like guarding the pylon every now and then I would suggest speccing heals again . Personally I love to guard the pylon for whatever reason. As for your problems you could have been going about concealment all the wrong way. The wrong rotation in this spec will trip you up and ultimately won't kill a thing. Rotation from stealth: Acid Blade, Hidden Strike, Shiv, Debilitate, Cover, Explosive Prove, (Acid Blade if you can), Backstab, Shiv, Lacerate, Lacerate, then whatever is needed to kill depending on what is off cooldown. Also, you may have been picking a target in between 2 smashers that immediately ate you up. You have to kinda see your target (if you chose to not guard a node) that will be important to take out, but won't bring you everyone's attention. Maybe a healer that has stranded himself away from his guard, or a Sniper that is really far away from any healers but is picking people off one by one. So, you could have your rotation wrong or picking bad targets. Possibly you could have run into a group that completely sucks if you only had 1 stab (hehe pun) at Concealment. Hope this helps.

I am new somewhat to lightning sorc but I have a few questions about the build. First I like the not 3 points in chain shock. That allows for some extra point somewhere. I never really realised that is a good thing to do. Secondly, why put 2 points in Lightning Effusion? Personally I am either dead, or I am in the duration of the fight. Either way I rarely find myself going below 60% energy while bubbling and offhealing when the healer is struggling. I see that 1 point in Lightning Effusion would do the trick. With potential 3 stacks of recklessness (with stalker set bonus) and auto crit on TB I see lightning sorcs still criting a lot and enough to have plenty of energy. The only reason I'm being picky with 1 point is I find myself loving a lot of extra things in Sorcerer trees . But... You need another point to get up into the Forked lightning area. You could use that extra point for more utility in lightning barrier or go 3 in Chain Shock. Either way this is a minimal difference I am just pointing out that there can be some utility added with little energy loss. Overall good guide. Thanks!

I would suggest maybe stacking something else than power. Maybe take a little bit of crit even though the DR is early. I mean if you have a partisan and conquerer relic of serendipitious assualt you will have a lot of extra power. I might be wrong but that is just evident to me.

See ya Hallow! I'll miss ya dude D': We had some good times on Pot5!